On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 17:49, Greg Pennefather wrote:
> We're using Swiftel in the office and it has been reliable and is very price
> competitive.  I think they have the same cheap deal as everyone else at $29
> with 200MB but their other deals include generous amounts of downloads and
> the excess charge is 0.5c per meg which is about one twelfth of most other
> ISPs and a thirtieth of Telstra's cheapest excess rate.

That rate is actually getting toward quite reasonable - something I
thought would be impossible with Telstra's ATM virtual circuit traffic
charges and peering charges. 

WN's rate is $10/GB which comes out at about 2x the Swiftel one - still
pretty good. I love the fact that you can set your plan to shaped, but
still buy more traffic allowance _at_ _your_ _option_.

I'll be truly happy when bandwidth is <$1/GB for Aust-local traffic,
with international below $5/GB. That makes streaming 'net radio etc
vaguely reasonable.

OTOH, my current plan has a 30GB allowance, so traffic is already
getting somewhat reasonable if you count traffic allowances included in
plans. My plain costs about $110/month, which comes out at ~$3.6/GB for
included traffic. At WN's going rate for extra traffic, that's $300 of
traffic included ($153 at Swiftel rates, $460 at Telstra rates). The
built-in allowance on the plan is actually enough to use a VPN and
things like 'net radio ( so long as you're careful ). If you can do it
over WAIX or PIPE of course, you're home free.

I run an IPv6/IPSec VPN between home and work over WAIX, and it doesn't
cost a cent. To me, WAIX makes the difference between "ADSL is stupidly
expensive to do many things with" and "ADSL is _really_ handy for VPNs
etc, so long as you can communicate over a free peering point." It's
also a proof that bandwidth needn't cost $15c/mb like certain ISPs think
it should.

Remember folks - bytes don't cost money. It does cost money to upgrade
networks to handle more traffic, and some international peering points
do byte-charge as a method to pay the upgrade and maintenance bills.
Overall, though, traffic within Australia really shouldn't cost as much
as it does. Unfortunately, there are some very one-sided peering
agreements in place.

Craig Ringer