WAMUG Mailing List Digest #740
1) Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
by Mervyn & Giuliana Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
by Ronda Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
by Rob Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) World of Warcraft (mac users)
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5) Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
by Rob Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) WTD: Cheap ADB Wacom tablet
by Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: iTMS Japan
by Andrew Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: iTMS Japan
by Robert Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Anti Virus Software
by Stephen Chape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:28:57 +0800
From: Mervyn & Giuliana Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
Rod
I know it is great to use the applications that come with a new
system but for my druthers I'd download the free for not for profit
desktop publishing application Ragtime Solo www.ragtime-online. com
and use that. Change your photographs as advised by others in
Photoshop from RGB to CMYK, set the picture frame in Ragtime to CMYK
and import your pictures. If Rhonda's print suggestion converts the
document to the required PDF then fine. I am still with 10.2 and
have no Adobe Distiller but can export the file as a postscript. The
printer converts to the required PDF and prints. Output fine.
Merv
At 6:55 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod Blitvich wrote:
Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages
software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great
templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the fonts and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB to
CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues, were
out.
He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to convert it
to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any
option/preference/export
feature that enables me to do this.
Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.
ta
Rod
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Subject: Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:29:20 +0800
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Hi Rob & people following the advice given to Rod Blitvich Re his
School Newsletter,
On 06/08/2005, at 1:52 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
On 05/08/2005, at 3:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
On 05/08/2005, at 6:55 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages
software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great
templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the
fonts and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB to
CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues,
were out.
He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to convert
it to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any option/preference/
export
feature that enables me to do this.
Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.
ta
Rod
Hi again people,
I've been 'messing around' with a 15 page Newsletter I did in
Pages quite some time back.
I think I originally just printed the Newsletter and the result
was great.
I'm using Tiger OSX10.4.2.
In Pages instead of Export, Choose File > Print, then click on
PDF button,
choose 'Save As PDF-X'.
Would this PDF-X file be what a Printer would require?
Yes? In most circumstances and especially if just a black text -
grayscale Newsletter. If CMYK I have been informed in most
situations the below should work and the final conversion is just a
guarantee of a CMYK PDF.
Ok, my 15 page 'Newsletter' in Pages I have been using to Test has
Text & Images. Some pages mostly images.
1. The normal File > Print > PDF looked perfect on Computer &
printed perfectly using Epson Printer (RGB).
2. The File > Print > click on PDF button 'Save As PDF-X' ... Text
looks fine, but some sections of images are 'mottled' (similar to a
'interlaced' Muxed video clip) on the Computer.
3. Doing as Rob suggested - using the normal PDF & "create a PDFX-3
document, from the quartz filters drop down box".
This looks exactly the same as No. 2. 'Save as PDF-X'.
Presumably (without getting a Professional Printer to check), the PDF-
X produced straight from Pages Print > 'Save as PDF-X' is the same
result as creating PDFX-3 using ColorSync Utility app. No surprise
here of course as ColorSync is doing the job from the Pages app.
Apple might have got this right.
To prove our point we need our original poster 'Rod Blitvich' to try
his next School Newsletter in the 'Save As PDF-X' file and check with
his Printer.
Cheers,
Ronni
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Subject: Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:36:24 +0800
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Morning Merv,
Thanks for the information interesting looking application.
On 05/08/2005, at 4:28 PM, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
Rod
I know it is great to use the applications that come with a new
system but for my druthers I'd download the free for not for profit
desktop publishing application Ragtime Solo www.ragtime-online.
com and use that. Change your photographs as advised by others in
Photoshop from RGB to CMYK, set the picture frame in Ragtime to
CMYK and import your pictures. If Rhonda's print suggestion
converts the document to the required PDF then fine. I am still
with 10.2 and have no Adobe Distiller but can export the file as a
postscript. The printer converts to the required PDF and prints.
Output fine.
That is the other option and a preferred one in some situations, to
output from Print dialog box > PDF > save PDF as Postscript. But, it
does not guarantee an Apple Pages document is CMYK as with Create
PDFX-3 Document from Quartz filter drop down box does, apparently. As
before check with the Source of your output.
Not sure if important, but check dpi of PDF/X-3 output might be and
might not be significant, although it can be changed within
ColorSync? Look at editing filters, in help.
Distiller creates output for printer, ColorSync Utility is the
colour profile guareenting what you see on screen should replicate
on paper. Does the job just fine in this situation and has some other
useful tools also.
Ragtime-solo does a lot of the same as distiller in Export, I think
it might be creating information for distiller which is why your
printer has no problem with them, his end does processing. Great
alternative program.
Thanks Merv
Cheers!
`Rob...
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Subject: World of Warcraft (mac users)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:42:22 +0800
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Hello.
Could any of the above game players contact me so we could make a West
Australian guild or an Australian guild.
Should make game meetings easier due to time zone.
Regards from Alan.
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From: Rob Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:50:12 +0800
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On 06/08/2005, at 12:29 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
Hi Rob & people following the advice given to Rod Blitvich Re his
School Newsletter,
On 06/08/2005, at 1:52 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
On 05/08/2005, at 3:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
On 05/08/2005, at 6:55 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages
software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great
templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the
fonts and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB
to CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues,
were out.
He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to
convert it to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any option/
preference/export
feature that enables me to do this.
Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.
ta
Rod
Hi again people,
I've been 'messing around' with a 15 page Newsletter I did in
Pages quite some time back.
I think I originally just printed the Newsletter and the result
was great.
I'm using Tiger OSX10.4.2.
In Pages instead of Export, Choose File > Print, then click on
PDF button,
choose 'Save As PDF-X'.
Would this PDF-X file be what a Printer would require?
Yes? In most circumstances and especially if just a black text -
grayscale Newsletter. If CMYK I have been informed in most
situations the below should work and the final conversion is just
a guarantee of a CMYK PDF.
Ok, my 15 page 'Newsletter' in Pages I have been using to Test has
Text & Images. Some pages mostly images.
1. The normal File > Print > PDF looked perfect on Computer &
printed perfectly using Epson Printer (RGB).
2. The File > Print > click on PDF button 'Save As PDF-X' ... Text
looks fine, but some sections of images are 'mottled' (similar to
a 'interlaced' Muxed video clip) on the Computer.
Printer processes PDF-X creating a postscript file, this relevant
file becomes separations as I spoke of before hence the need for CMYK
information also Epson is not interpreting Postscript hence mottled,
I think.
To get a proof of image print it to screen through preview. As Apple
OS X renders to screen at 72dpi?
3. Doing as Rob suggested - using the normal PDF & "create a PDFX-3
document, from the quartz filters drop down box".
This looks exactly the same as No. 2. 'Save as PDF-X'.
Presumably (without getting a Professional Printer to check), the
PDF-X produced straight from Pages Print > 'Save as PDF-X' is the
same result as creating PDFX-3 using ColorSync Utility app. No
surprise here of course as ColorSync is doing the job from the
Pages app.
Apple might have got this right.
Exactly only difference with the extra step is guaranteeing CMYK,
although as last post I have noticed profile sets dpi at 72 this
could be or not be significant check with printer.
To prove our point we need our original poster 'Rod Blitvich' to
try his next School Newsletter in the 'Save As PDF-X' file and
check with his Printer.
I would be very interested to know also..
Thanks Ronni,
Cheers!
`Rob...
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Hi All!
I am after a cheap ADB WACOM tablet. There must be a pile of them
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Subject: Re: iTMS Japan
At 11:19 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod wrote:
Unfortunately Sony/BMG has the monopoly on Australian artists too
:-( There won't be much content on iTMS au with out Sony :-p
Frankly, I don't care. Although I have bought a lot of music by
Australian artists on CD, I wish they would just bring on the ITMS
Australia, regardless of whether Sony is signed on or not.
Of course, one can hope that Sony may eventually come on board but
let's not be missing out on other content just because Sony hasn't
got its act together in Australia.
--
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Subject: Re: iTMS Japan
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On 06/08/2005, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Nielsen wrote:
At 11:19 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod wrote:
Unfortunately Sony/BMG has the monopoly on Australian artists too :-(
There won't be much content on iTMS au with out Sony :-p
Frankly, I don't care. Although I have bought a lot of music by
Australian artists on CD, I wish they would just bring on the ITMS
Australia, regardless of whether Sony is signed on or not.
Of course, one can hope that Sony may eventually come on board but
let's not be missing out on other content just because Sony hasn't got
its act together in Australia.
--
Andrew Nielsen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AND IF it did start in Aus without Sony/BMG the pressure would be on
them to join in !
Nothing like a bit of COMPETITION .... so I keep gettiing told .
Bob
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