At 7:27 PM +0800 9/9/06, Ronda Brown wrote:
On 09/09/2006, at 6:24 PM, Robert Howells wrote:
On 9 Sep 2006, at 6:00 PM, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
At 4:52 PM +0800 5/9/06, Ronda Brown wrote:
On 05/09/2006, at 2:25 PM, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
At 11:00 PM +0800 4/9/06, Robert Howells wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006, at 6:23 PM, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
At 1:42 PM +0800 4/9/06, Robert Howells wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006, at 12:47 PM, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
Yesterday I was presented with a Super Talent Ultra Flash
USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive of 1GB. The information cards
says it is compatible with USB 2.0 or 1.1. The information
cards also asserts 'Plug and Play and easy to use'. Well,
not on my iMac G4 running OS X 10.2.8.
Visited their website at www.supertalent.com and found a
patch for 10.2.8. Downloaded but my Stuffit Expander
wouldn't (v7.0). Downloaded Stuffit upgrade (8.0.2),
appropriate for my system and unstuffed the offending file.
Installed the patch. No joy. My wife's iBook running
10.4.7 can see it in DOS format or MacOS extended.
Any ideas or do I give my Father's Day gift to my wife?
Merv
1. Hang on to it !
2. It's probably formatted in Dos or the likes ( Fat32 ?
) which is desireable if you
are going from Mac to PC , but not necessary for just
Mac . Mac can normally handle
the Dos , but perhaps your Mac cannot .
So use the ladies Mac to reformat to HFS+ and then see if
your Mac will look at it
Bob
Bob
Tried formatting to Mac OS extended on the iBook but my iMac
still would not recognise it.
On the iMac after using Disk Utility to format it (DOS or Mac)
it appears on the screen. I can drag items to it and when it
is plugged into the iBook the dragged files are available.
Plugging back into the iMac it gives the message that there
are no Mac OS volumes to read and my options are to ignore,
eject or erase!! Ignoring produces nothing.
When setting up for erasing/reformatting in Disk Utility there
is a line that says: Connection ID unknown. Any ideas at
whether this is the problem? If so, what does one do?
Merv
Hmmmm !
I had a problem recently giving similar symptoms for a Hard
Drive in OS9.2
that turned out to be an incorrect Mac ROM file in the System Folder .
There's a story to tell about how that happened !
It's important to match your hardware ( iMac Model ) and
Firmware with your System software .
So the question is ,,,,, Have you the right version of OSX
10.2.8 for the Firmware
on your iMac ?
Can you boot into OS9.2 ? Can you then see the Flash card ?
Since there was a special download for 10.2.8 , but not 10.3
what about upgrading to 10.3 ?
Bob
Checked on firmware updates - none required
Yes, when I boot from OS 9.2 the Flash is recognised.
Recent bits of software have made me consider going to 10.4 but
my disk drive is for CDs only. Would have to purchase a CD
version and then take all night to install!!
Are you finding OS 10.3.9 stable?
Merv
Hi Merv,
Just a thought ,,,You are plugging the drive into the iMac's USB port?
Don't use the keyboard's ports or ports on a USB hub, use ports
on the iMac itself.
OSX 10.2.8 should be able to read a MS-DOS formatted USB Flash Drive.
Another thing ... are you ejecting it correctly from both the
iBook & iMac 'File > Eject'.
You could also run the Update Combo 10.2.8
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdatecombo_10_2_8.html>
Cheers,
Ronni
At 8:11 +0800 5/9/06, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
Ronni
The device came with a USB extension chord which I plugged into
the back of the iMac. I have also tried a direct plug in with no
success.
Ejecting correctly? Not at first, dragged the image to the trash.
Already running on the update
Your interest appreciated.
Merv
Today I checked out another make of USB Flash and and it worked on
my 10.2.8. It is formatted as DOS FAT 16.
If the offending flash was similarly formatted might it make a difference?
Disk Utility only offers FAT 32, and given file sizes that is
understandable. However, it might be worth a try, but how.
Merv
Hmmmm !
We still have not confirmed what current that Talent Flash is
trying to draw ,
and whether your USB port is able to deliver without a voltage drop !
Remember it is a USB2 trying to make out like a USB1.1 ... which is not
normally a problem ... but ...
Was the working USB flash a 1.1 or USB2 ?
Bob
Hi Bob & Merv,
From what I have read USB devices draw power from the USB bus. They
can either be a "low-power" device or a "high-power" device. The
high-power devices draw the full 500mA that USB allows. Low-power
devices draw no more than 100mA or so. When a device is plugged into
a USB port, it identifies to the host whether it is a low-power or
high-power device. The host computer is then able to determine if it
can supply enough power for the device.
If it can't, the USB port is shut down to preserve the circuitry.
The newer SanDisk Cruzer Mini devices (they are long and thin rather
than short and stubby) draw slightly more power than a low-power USB
device is supposed to.
A Mac sees this discrepancy and shuts down the USB port. Once the
port is shut down, it's down for as long as the machine is running.
Rebooting the Mac helps, but not always.
My guess is that the Apple USB implementation is following specs and
correctly shutting down the USB port when too much current is being
drawn.
I have a 1GB Super Talent Ultra Flash USB2.0 Flash Drive formatted
MS-DOS FAT32 works fine in OSX10.4.7.
I'm thinking like Bob, that perhaps your Talent flash is drawing too
much power from your USB port & therefore shutting he port down.
Cheers,
Ronni
Both the offending Talent and Transcend run on 10.4.7. The problem
seems to be 10.2.8 for the Talent Flash.
--
"Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must
also believe in order to see."
