I agree re turning on Airplane mode ­ as my 3G iPhone stopped receiving any
GPS signal when I tried this option.

15 minutes for acquisition is far too long compared to up to a couple of
minutes for my Garmin dedicated GPS and my HP iPaq Travel Companion with
built in Tom Tom. 

I will let you know how I go when hiking in the forest ­ assuming I return
safely!! The plan is to walk from Pemberton the 55km to Northcliffe over the
weekend when it will only be a few degrees cooler there than in Perth.
Eeek!

Cheers
Tim


On 11/1/10 1:45 PM, "Rod Blitvich" <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Thanks Tim
> I have GPS Lite.
> Let me know how you go.
> 
> It's all confusing - GPS or Assisted GPS utilizing phone towers.
> The FAQs for GPS  seem to suggest that you can still use the ap out of phone
> coverage, but it may take up to 15 mins to acquire satellite signal:
> I also read that you can't simulate this by turning Airplane Mode on, because
> it not only block phone reception but also GPS reception.
> 
> "The 3G and 3GS iPhone uses an A-GPS (Assisted-GPS) chipset which uses cell
> tower triangulation to speed up GPS signal acquisition. Cellular coverage is
> not needed to acquire a signal, however the signal acquisition will be much
> quicker if you have data coverage. Without data services, it can take 15
> minutes or longer to acquire a signal. This is simply because it takes longer
> to determine which satellites to use out of the 31 available around the world.
> With data services, it typically takes under a minute, but can take up to 5
> min. You do need data services or WiFi if you want to share your
> waypoints/tracks via email or view a waypoint in Google Maps."
> 
> cheers
> Rod
> On 11/01/2010, at 7:22 AM, Tim Law wrote:
> 
>> Hello Rod,
>> 
>> I cannot help you with that particular app, but I have just purchased GPS by
>> MotionX which I intend to play with in Pemberton next weekend. I don¹t have
>> Optus coverage in Pemberton or out on the tracks, so I have downloaded some
>> of their own maps that are stored on the iPhone and I will see if the app
>> works as it should away from wifi and mobile signals. It allowed me to upload
>> some waypoints I created too, which is handy.
>> 
>> Why this might be relevant to you, is that your app may either store the
>> worldwide calculations and data in the iPhone and use the inbuilt GPS to
>> produce viewable data no matter where you are, OR, it may cache them once you
>> have gone looking at the area from afar and whilst in network range allowing
>> you to re-view it later.   Either way, it does appear these apps are useful
>> away from normal coverage.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/1/10 9:34 AM, "Rod Blitvich" <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/marine-australia/id306693075?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Gidday WAMUGers
>>> Navonics Marine Australia is an ap on the itunes store.
>>> It seems to suggest it will work WITHOUT phone coverage.
>>> eg i could use it to determine tides and mark spots, get coordinates etc in
>>> faraway places like north/south of Broome whilst outside of phone coverage.
>>> Is this possible or have I misinterpreted??
>>> Thanks for your advice
>>> cheers
>>> Blitto
>>> 
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