Hi Alan,

I thank you very much for the detailed appraisal (and sympathise with your
frustration).

Maybe we might get lucky with Mountain lion supporting this feature on the
(slightly) older iMacs ;o)


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
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Email: n...@possumology.com



on 22/6/12 10:20 PM, Alan Smith at sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> Hi Neil
> 
> A final AirParrot wrap-up on this thread.   In short: alas, alas.
> 
> I increased RAM on my Mac from 4GB to 12GB (thanks Daniel) but it made no
> difference to watching movies via AirParrot.
> 
> AP works well when mirroring a fairly static application.  It projects it to
> near full TV size, independent of its window size on the iMac.  It also worked
> well when mirroring the MacBook Pro retina display sales video from the home
> page of the Apple website, but audio lip movements were slightly out of sync
> with the video.  Because it was displaying the Safari application with its
> full borders as per a computer display, the actual video content was say 20
> percent of the window area.   I then played a Minuscule episode in Preview via
> Finder and enlarged the playback to about the size of a Safari window.   Jerky
> playback indicating no buffering (?) and video quality was also degraded.   A
> live eyeTV program was similar with jerky playback and only fair video
> quality.   It seems that the area of the video within the Mac app window has a
> major impact.  Doesn't appear to be any difference between AppleTV connected
> via ethernet or AirPort.
> 
> I had trouble with mirroring the Mac desktop as distinct from mirroring
> individual applications.  AppleTV kept dropping out.  Didn't pursue this.
> 
> It doesn't play nicely with iView at all.   Long periods of paused video even
> on fairly static content.  And Apple TV connection frequently lost.   iView
> playback defaults to full screen mode when it starts - AirParrot can't handle
> that at all.   I resized to my normal Safari window area  to give a watchable
> TV size for my tests but didn't try a very small playback window.   Didn't try
> YouTube.
> 
> The AirParrot app itself is not very robust.  I had to restart the Mac twice
> when AP gave the spinning beach ball.  AP does not appear in the list of apps
> to permit a Force Quit.  AP FAQs state that for some issues the app should be
> closed for several minutes to recover!
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> On 20/06/2012, at 12:52 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
> Hi Neil
> 
> Responding re your AirParrot question:
> 
> I've spent the last hour or so typing up a response, then testing AirParrot
> again.   Final result is that it is too early to give a review, but it is much
> more promising than I first thought.   The bad video effects may just be due
> to my relatively underpowered iMac having to download a compressed iView movie
> (that has artefacts at the best of time) while simultaneously converting to
> H.264 for sending to ATV.   Another possible cause of poor video (untested) is
> that initial tests were done with Apple TV connected via ethernet, with todays
> tests using WiFi.
> 
> Operation is a bit clumsy.  For example, several items need to be checked in
> the menu to set up air play, but the menu window closes after each item.
> 
> Sound quality is good.  Audio is stereo analogue and is either desktop or ATV.
> Setup requires an audio driver to be activated.
> 
> Desktop mirroring worked with no apparent problem, but I only used relatively
> static views for a short time.  Could not read fine text, eg from an email
> open on screen.  But I don't think iPad mirroring does any better.
> 
> Video quality - initial impression was not very good.  I recall video quality
> was very ordinary.  Video streaming was slow with periods of frozen images -
> possibly the result of encoding everything to H.264 (I think) on the fly.   I
> tested iView with a 5 minute Minuscule episode and an eyeTV mirroring clip
> just before I emailed my comment to WAMUG last night.  I later watched a 15
> minute iView  program but ATV just switched to screen saver and cut off audio
> at about  the half way mark.  Problem not investigated.  There was a known
> AirParrot issue with video failing when ATV went into sleep mode (supposedly
> fixed) but my ATV sleep setting is 1 hour.
> 
> I tested video quality again this morning because of my initial poor rating.
> I used WiFi instead of ethernet.   Only watched video for relatively short
> periods.  Quality good.  An eyeTV live broadcast mirroring worked well with no
> image break up.    Ditto with a movie played via Quicktime and mirrored.   And
> iView continued to give poor quality, broken video, as well as dropping out
> completely.
> 
> In summary, I will persevere with this $10 application but hope that Mountain
> Lion will make it redundant.   I will get additional RAM for my iMac and see
> if that helps the iView problem.    Haven't yet tried to watch a straight 30
> minute mirror to test the ATV sleeping issue.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/06/2012, at 10:36 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> OK, that's good to know. Many thanks for the feedback.
> 
> 
> When you say:
>> App is a bit rough, but it works.
> What is the problem/roughness - is it in the interface/operability or is it
> in the resulting video/audio stream?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil



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