> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> "iPhoto Library Matt":
>> Was this Library ever on an external drive?  NO
> 
>> Do you know what version of iPhoto it was previously opened in? I am really 
>> not sure, it may have been about 2 years ago since I last used it.
>> 
>>> Yesterday I tried to open the "iPhoto Library Matt" in iPhoto and the 
>>> screen stayed black and I received the spinning grey wheel. I switched to 
>>> the other two Libraries and they both worked okay. Then I realised that 
>>> maybe I should not have done the back up, even though everything was 
>>> working well!
>> 
>> I suspect the Upgrade of the Library database did not complete. Normally the 
>> upgrade takes quite a long time, especially if the Library is large it can 
>> take an hour or more to complete. 
>> Did you see "Upgrading Library: Scanning Library? ?. and let the process 
>> continue until the upgrade progress bar was displayed?
>> For very large libraries, iPhoto ?11 may appear to be inactive for several 
>> minutes before the progress bar is displayed ? you must not force quit the 
>> application during this period.  
> I saw it say it was up grading the library, and I saw it finish it. It only 
> took about  30-40 seconds which really surprised me as the library contains 
> 3,937 photos. I don't think I saw the progress bar as it seems to finish so 
> fast. After this I went into the application and looked at the photo's for 
> some time before closing it down. That is why I thought the upgrade had 
> worked as it allowed me access to the application and the photo's and they 
> all were working okay, in their albums and events. 
>> It is strongly recommended that you do not force quit the application during 
>> the update process. If you force quit iPhoto you will risk data loss!
>> 
>> When you mention -
>>> and I opened iPhoto...   
>> Does this mean iPhoto did not remain open after upgrading the Library? What 
>> happened after the Library was updated? Yes, it did remain open, as I 
>> mentioned above, after the upgrade I looked through most of the albums and 
>> events that is how I found the photo's of my Mom.
>> 
>> If the Library Database has not updated post back and I will give you 
>> instructions to 'allow' iPhoto to update again.  Well, I believe it upgraded 
>> as I saw the photo's, but the time span for the upgrade was excessively 
>> short for an upgrade to occur, could I have gained access to the photo's 
>> without an upgrade having taken place, after having been blocked at the log 
>> in stage?   
>> With not having a good backup of this Library is a worry as I cannot give 
>> any guarantee.
>> 
>> All iPhoto Libraries should be in Users/Matt/Pictures  I thought they should 
>> be, so how do I go about moving it to Users/Matt/Pictures ? Do I just drag 
>> the file over? Or would it be better to copy it first then paste, see if it 
>> works in the new position, if it does then back up and then try again, then 
>> delete the file from the volume location?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
> Thanks
> 
> Matt
> 
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>> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:50:29 +0800
>> From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: When I open iPhoto I get a Spinning grey wheel
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>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> "iPhoto Library Matt":
>> Was this Library ever on an external drive?
> 
>> Do you know what version of iPhoto it was previously opened in?
>> 
>>> Yesterday I tried to open the "iPhoto Library Matt" in iPhoto and the 
>>> screen stayed black and I received the spinning grey wheel. I switched to 
>>> the other two Libraries and they both worked okay. Then I realised that 
>>> maybe I should not have done the back up, even though everything was 
>>> working well!
>> 
>> I suspect the Upgrade of the Library database did not complete. Normally the 
>> upgrade takes quite a long time, especially if the Library is large it can 
>> take an hour or more to complete. 
>> Did you see "Upgrading Library: Scanning Library? ?. and let the process 
>> continue until the upgrade progress bar was displayed?
>> For very large libraries, iPhoto ?11 may appear to be inactive for several 
>> minutes before the progress bar is displayed ? you must not force quit the 
>> application during this period.
>> It is strongly recommended that you do not force quit the application during 
>> the update process. If you force quit iPhoto you will risk data loss!
>> 
>> When you mention -
>>> and I opened iPhoto...   
>> Does this mean iPhoto did not remain open after upgrading the Library? What 
>> happened after the Library was updated?
>> 
>> If the Library Database has not updated post back and I will give you 
>> instructions to 'allow' iPhoto to update again.
>> With not having a good backup of this Library is a worry as I cannot give 
>> any guarantee.
>> 
>> All iPhoto Libraries should be in Users/Matt/Pictures
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 06/07/2012, at 11:48 AM, Matt Falvey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I have been busy importing a few images into iPhoto and I have multiple 
>>> iPhoto Libraries. I have been using iPhoto Library Manager to switch 
>>> between the Libraries, (as I hadn't been aware that I could do it by 
>>> pressing Option and launching iPhoto).
>>> 
>>> During the time I was importing the images I noticed on iPhoto Library 
>>> Manager a Library I had not seen before called "iPhoto Library Matt" (My 
>>> other two are called "iPhoto Library" & "iPhoto Library Mon"). I clicked on 
>>> it and had iPhoto open it and was greeted with the request to update the 
>>> photo library so it could be used on iPhoto 9.2.3, I ran the update (I 
>>> backup every month and it would have been backed up monthly for years 
>>> without me knowing), it ran for a short while, seemed successful and I 
>>> opened iPhoto and found and viewed some priceless photos of my Mom's 80th 
>>> birthday. 
>>> 
>>> I closed it down and finished off the importing of the images to another 
>>> Library and when that was all completed, I did my monthly backup.
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I tried to open the "iPhoto Library Matt" in iPhoto and the 
>>> screen stayed black and I received the spinning grey wheel. I switched to 
>>> the other two Libraries and they both worked okay. Then I realised that 
>>> maybe I should not have done the back up, even though everything was 
>>> working well!
>>> 
>>> I had a look on the web for help. 1) make sure iPhoto is closed. Then press 
>>> and hold COMMAND + OPTION and click to launch it again.
>>> When you do, you'll get options to "repair" the iPhoto library. Select them 
>>> all and sit back and wait for it to finish. When done, see if you can 
>>> access the photos again.
>>> 
>>> I tried this and I still had the Spinning grey wheel and nothing really 
>>> happened.
>>> 
>>> Then - FINALLY:
>>> If NONE of the above works, we may need to do a little rescue and recovery! 
>>> But, thankfully this is pretty easy - although you will lose most of your 
>>> ratings, keywords, photo edits, etc.
>>> 1) It will be best to work from a copy of your library that we know was 
>>> good, so go ahead and restore it from Time Machine once again as you did in 
>>> above.
>>> 2) Now we need to open up that library so we can get to the photos, so 
>>> Right Click the newly restored library and choose "Show Package Contents"
>>> 3) When you do, you'll see a number of folders. Look for the one called 
>>> Originals.
>>> NOTE: Under iPhoto 11, Originals is an Alias that points to a folder called 
>>> Masters. If you open the library and see that Originals is an alias (look 
>>> for the little arrow), then instead look for Masters. I'm pretty sure 
>>> iPhoto 08 used the name Originals.
>>> In any event, Originals (or Masters) holds all your original, unmodified, 
>>> images! 
>>> 4) Now COPY Originals (or Masters) to the Desktop.
>>> 5) Next, move the iPhoto Library out of the Pictures folder. We no longer 
>>> need it because we're going to build a new one.
>>> 6) Launch iPhoto and it should not only launch, but also create a new, 
>>> empty, iPhoto library.
>>> 7) With that done, within iPhoto click File > Import to Library, and then 
>>> select that Originals folder you placed on the Desktop.
>>> iPhoto should now import all of the old photos. Again, this is a "last 
>>> ditch" effort to recover things because all of the personal settings, 
>>> edits, etc will be lost ... BUT you will still have your photos. And that's 
>>> the most important thing.
>>> 
>>> I haven't been brave enough to try this yet and thought I would get some 
>>> opinions before I set off down the rocky road.  In the first instance I 
>>> can't work from a "copy of your library that we know is good" as thanks to 
>>> the back up they are both identical.
>>> 
>>> I have had a look at the contents package and the Original/Masters and can 
>>> see that quite a lot of photo's are gone, where I do not know, Mom's 
>>> amongst them.
>>> 
>>> So in short, after a very long prelim, is this the best way forward now or 
>>> has anyone any better ideas? 
>>> 
>>> One overriding question will this work and not interfere with the two other 
>>> Libraries?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Finally, and I bet you are saying thank god, I did notice that one of the 
>>> Libraries "iPhoto Library" is for some strange reason located not in the 
>>> Normal 
>>> /Users/matt/Pictures/ but in /Volumes/matt/Pictures/. Now I had to do a 
>>> search to find where that was and it is a "directory at the root level of 
>>> my system that stores my hard drives". That I can access via Finder>Go>Go 
>>> to Folder and in the pop up window I put in /Volume, it comes up with my 
>>> hard drive and then "matt" and I can find the "iPhoto Library" from there.
>>> 
>>> As this is a really weird location, is it possible without wrecking things 
>>> to move it to /Users/matt/Pictures/ ? It has a unique name after all.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for being so long winded. 
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>> 

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