Iwill solve the problem by putting a stick into the USB socket Thanks for your 
help 

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



On 07/02/2013, at 2:02 PM, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:

> Hi Mac,
> 
> As I see it there are two issues here:
> 
> 1) what cable would physically connect your turntable to your computer
> 2) if you make such a connection, will it do what you want (copy your
> records tracks to your computer) or not - or might it even damage one or
> both of the devices.
> 
> 1) is easily answered - you just need a cable that has plugs which match the
> sockets on each device - but maybe there is a good reason you can't easily
> find/buy one - I mean, I could physically make a mains extension lead that
> had a plug on each end - but it would be an extremely bad idea ;o)
> 
> You really need to address 2) first.
> 
> Traditionally you would get record tracks from an LP to the computer by
> taking the audio output from your stereo system and connecting it into your
> computers audio in port. This has been well covered before, so I won't go
> into details except to note that the turntable output usually requires
> pre-amplification and equalisation up to line level to give the computer
> what it wants - which is why you would normally use the line-out socket of
> your amplifier/stereo system (rather than the direct turntable output).
> 
> More recently, however, turntables have been produced aimed more at
> transferring to computers, including ones with USB ports. There are,
> however, different implementations of this. A couple of examples:
> 
> 1)  This turntable <http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=GE4056>
> outputs an audio signal via either standard RCA plugs or via usb. With this
> approach you use a computer program (such as Audacity) to record the audio
> to your computer. In this case, the turntable has a Type B USB port and is
> connected to the computer via a standard Type A to Type B cable.
> 
> 2)  This turntable <http://dicksmith.com.au/product/AE2836/> does audio to
> mp3 encoding within the turntable. The USB port would be a Type A port to
> allow you to insert a usb drive. The turntable also has line-out ports - so
> you could encode using your computer the traditional way.
> 
> From what you say, your turntable has digital output by a USB Type A port -
> and so I believe it will have an onboard conversion to mp3 and will expect
> to see a USB storage device at the port - which it will write the mp3 file
> to.
> 
> I would suggest:
> 
> A)  If you are happy with the mp3 output, as encoded by the turntable, then
> connect a usb drive to the turntable and encode away - you can always
> transfer them to your computer later. Unless your turntable has specific
> limits, you wouldn't need to use a thumb drive - you could use a more
> spacious USB hard drive (though I would suggest an externally-powered drive
> unless you know the turntable USB port can output enough power to run a
> portable HD)
> 
> B) If you wish to have more control over the conversion (and provided your
> turntable has audio line-out and your computer has audio line-in) feed the
> audio to your computer and use suitable audio software to record/convert to
> your preferences (see previous WAMUG posts re suitable software).
> 
> 
> If you want a bit more info:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Host_and_Device_interface
> _receptacles> gives a good run-down on various aspects of USB, including the
> different connector types and their use/purpose - you can see from their
> Cable plug table/matrix that a Type A to Type A cable is a non-standard
> configuration where:
>> 
>> Non-standard
>>    existing for specific proprietary purposes, and not interoperable with
>> USB-IF compliant equipment.
> 
> 
> Also, this article 
> <http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/314204/reviewed_5_usb_turntables_conv
> ert_lps_mp3s/?> is a review of 5 USB turntables and is a bit PC-centric but
> it also discusses the overall process and the options and raises some things
> to think about.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 7/2/13 11:03 AM, Malcolm McCallum at doc...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
>> What do I need then? A crossover cable? It is to go between my laptop and a 
>> is
>> output on a record player
> 
> On 07/02/2013, at 10:41 AM, Ronni Brown
>> <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes I'm well aware that a USB extension cable has A
>> male to A female connectors.
>> I just did not know what sort of USB cable you
>> required, there are many kinds of USB to USB cables.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/02/2013, at 9:01 AM, Malcolm McCallum <doc...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> No Ronni, that has different ends.:-(
>>> Malcolm McCallum
>>> 
>>> 
>> doc...@westnet.com.au
>>> Skype docmactor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/02/2013, at 5:46
>> AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Was Malcolm after a USB
>> extension cable?
>>>> USB 2.0 A A USB Extension Cable, I have a couple of
>> those.
>>>> 
>>>> "USB 2.0 3M A A USB Extension Cable 3 Metres
>>>> 
>> <http://dicksmith.com.au/product/XH3355/dse-cable-usb-2-0-3m-a-a-usb-extension
>> -cable-3-metres>
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> On 06/02/2013, at 11:02 PM, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Lol,..I'm intriguedŠ.
>>>>> What were these "naughty things"
>> you can do???? lol.
>>>>> Which sort of USB cable was? (as there's quite a few
>> different types of USB).
>>>>> Oh wait,..you did say it was Dick
>> Smith,,Šlol.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you say,Šdamn, and there goes my change to hotwire
>> cars with it,..man, busted! lol :o)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arrr,Šmaybe why,Šgoogled
>> "Illegal USB cable" to see what would turn up.
>>>>> /quote
>>>>> Q6: You mean I
>> can't make a direct cable connection like a null modem?
>>>>> A6: Correct. In
>> fact, if you try this with an illegal A to A USB cable,
>>>>> you'll short the
>> two PCs' power supplies together, possibly destroying one
>>>>> or both
>> machines or causing a fire hazard. Even there were no danger to the
>>>>> 
>> machines from the problem with two power supplies, there still wouldn't
>> be
>>>>> any way to get the two PCs talking to each other, since USB doesn't
>> support
>>>>> that particular kind of communication. A reasonably priced
>> solution to
>>>>> handle this need is the USB bridge.
>>>>> /end quote
>>>>> From
>> the first google hit gave this page,..
>>>>> 
>> <http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t234978-usb-crossover-cable.html>
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I'm guessing they may have been referring to a USB A to A
>> cable. (Most USB Cables are A to B and then mini versions of those and so
>> on,Š.).
>>>>> So perhaps there answer should really have beenŠwhat sort of
>> cable were you after sir? And then worked out from there what you needed.
>> 
>>>>> Lol :o)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, there you go. Fire and safety hazard by the
>> look of it,Š
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Daniel
>> Kerr
>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>> Email: <daniel AT
>> macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 06/02/2013, at 10:48 PM, Malcolm
>> McCallum <doc...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just been to Dick
>> Smiths to Buy a USB to USB cable and to my astonishment was told that it was
>> an illegal cable and could not be sold!!!! Evidently I might do naughty 
>> things
>> with this cable. The WORLD Has gone Mad.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> Malcolm
>> McCallum
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> doc...@westnet.com.au
>>>>>> Skype docmactor
>> 
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