No problem mate ! A very informative read and the more info we give each other the better educated we all are !
On 20 Sep 2014, at 7:39 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: > lol yes,…at least I gave it for-warning,…lol > (both in "ramblings" in the Subject line, and an apology at the > start.),..hehe ;) > I don't think I'd ever be a good "wordsmith",…I waffle too much > sometimes,…lol :) > > Kind regards > Daniel > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > > On 20/09/2014, at 6:50 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Struth Daniel, >> Perhaps you should publish this new book of yours on Amazon Kindle Services >> ! ! >> >> On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:19 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rod >>> >>> Apologies for the long post,…but hopefully it all follows and you can get >>> the info from it,…..(I have a habit now of not re-reading a post,…just >>> sending it,…lol). >>> (I changed the subject line slightly as well). >>> >>> Not necessarily…..it's kind of a yes and no and maybe answer I'm afraid. >>> And every person/plan is different. >>> But I'll give you my take on my plan and situation,……seeing as it relates >>> to me. >>> >>> A few years back when I bought iPhones (4s) for myself and Ronni we did >>> some calculations. (well we spoke on length about it) and we worked out the >>> best plans for both of us. >>> I went with a $79 BYOM plan (bring your own mobile). The reason being it >>> was cheaper per month by about $20-$30 and at that time only on a 12month >>> contract versus the 24 month contract. >>> So for that plan I got $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB data. (I went with >>> Telstra due to the Vodafone mess they had at the time and the better >>> Telstra coverage I needed for moving around Perth area and hills a lot,..as >>> well as down South etc). >>> The current plan at the time where they gave you a "free" phone was about >>> $99 or $109 for the same value. >>> So when I looked at it, it was about $240-360 cheaper per year to buy the >>> phone outright and then sign up for a BYOM plan. (and obviously double that >>> if I looked at being "locked in" to a 2 year contract plan. So over two >>> years that figure goes to $480-$720 dearer. I then also factored in selling >>> off one phone model as well. >>> >>> That was about 3 years ago now I'd say. >>> So jump forward to now,…. >>> >>> If I relook at the plan I'm on now ($79/month) which still has the same >>> $1200 worth of calls and 2.5GB of data. (on average I can spend between >>> $950-$1150 worth of calls per month). >>> To get a "similar" plan now >>> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/iphone-6/index.htm?switch=Features >>> The medium plan I either have to take less data or less amount of calls >>> depending on which "extra" I choose,..so although its $86/per month it's >>> not as good. >>> So I look at the Large plan which will give me either more data then I have >>> now but less calls,…(which I could just "squeeze" in.) or more call value >>> and the same amount of data. (which would be my safer bet). This plan is >>> $95. Which is $16 per month more and I'm locked into a 24month contract. >>> And with that I get a "free" 64GB iPhone 6. >>> (For ease of calculation I just look at it at $20/per month more). But for >>> exact calculation,..it's $192 per year dearer. Factor that in being locked >>> into a 2 year contract to "compare",…then it's $384 dearer over those two >>> years. >>> >>> I then work out that roughly I can get $350-$400 for my wife's iPhone 4s >>> 64GB. So take the lower figure. (She then gets my iPhone 5 32GB). >>> >>> So I take those two figures together,…$384 :saving" and $350 selling the >>> older phone. This makes a total of $734. >>> To buy outright the iPhone 6 64GB is $999. >>> So if I then look over the 2 year period again, it's "really" cost me about >>> $265. (yes, I have to buy it at full price upfront,..and hope that I sell >>> the older iPhone. And then wait for the full 2 years to get the "savings"). >>> Anything falls over with these "conditions" then can throw a spanner in the >>> works/calculation. >>> >>> (plus, depending on jobs, some businesses will let you write off a portion >>> of your phone purchase as a business expensive…the higher percentage >>> depending on how much you use it for "work".). >>> >>> Obviously there are a few factors that can poke holes in all this. Not >>> limited to,…if you upgrade again after 12 months, the calculations are all >>> thrown out. Given I skipped over the 5s and am going from 5 to 6,…I assume >>> that I'll go to the iPhone 7 (unless there's some massive huge "wow" factor >>> for the iPhone 6s) ("s" being for Sapphire screen)….lol,..I don't >>> know,..I'm guessing. (not that I've ever broken a screen on any >>> iPhone,..touch wood). >>> Another factor is if Telstra come along and say "I'm sorry we're >>> discontinuing that plan as it's an old plan and we no longer support it,…so >>> you must upgrade to our new "fantastic super beneficial much better" plans. >>> "(note the sarcasm and sales technique,….lol). >>> Or some other factors. >>> >>> So hopefully that answers your plan, and calculations. >>> For where I buy. At this stage i keep trying the reservation service for >>> the Apple shops. (preferably Garden City). But if anyone else lets me buy >>> it outright,..then I'll go there. (JBHiFi won't sell outright until about >>> next week, as they sell on plans first,..as they make more money from them >>> over an outright purchase customer). Otherwise I was ummmming and arrrring >>> to buy it online direct from Apple. Either way, it's still full RRP. Shops >>> I can sometimes use my "retail experience jedi powers "sell it a little >>> cheaper please" magic,……". (or hey, how about throw in a $20 cover) :o) >>> Either way, I know they make nothing on it really,….but hey. Always worth a >>> try :)) >>> >>> So hopefully that one answers your buying question ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope all that helps. I'm sure my thinking can probably be picked about in >>> places,…but hey, for me,…I can make my calculations and thinking work,..so >>> that's the main thing. As long as I feel ok with it,…then it's a win/win >>> :o)) >>> >>> >>> Again sorry for the long post,…was trying to get all my thinking on to >>> "paper"……lol :o) >>> >>> Enjoy!! >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>> that permission by the author be requested. >>> >>> On 20/09/2014, at 12:34 PM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Daniel >>>> Are you saying buy outright and then get a Telstra plan? >>>> Which plan? >>>> Who do you buy outright from? >>>> Please are you able to share your calculations? >>>> ta >>>> Blitto >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> wamug@wamug.org.au >>>> >>>> To: >>>> <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Cc: >>>> >>>> Sent: >>>> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:09:58 +0800 >>>> Subject: >>>> Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+ >>>> >>>> >>>> Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol. >>>> The money is better in our pocket then Telstra's,….lol. >>>> Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big for me I'm afraid,…but then you and >>>> i work a little differently :o) hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't >>>> fit in my jeans pocket like normal!! lol ;) >>>> (Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and an AppleWatch :oP >>>> hehe. ;o) >>>> >>>> We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and save it >>>> for an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe. >>>> >>>> Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like you >>>> thought you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought you may have >>>> done as well,….lol.hehe). >>>> Did you read about the "hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy >>>> phones to take back to China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 >>>> cash passing it around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around >>>> $2000 selling back over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over >>>> 20 phones going through to claim back the GST and was holding up the queue >>>> for others,…). >>>> >>>> Enjoy your new iPhone! :o)) >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6) >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form >>>> of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>>> that permission by the author be requested. >>>> >>>> On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Daniel, >>>> >>>> As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-)) >>>> Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 >>>> year contract for some time, is better for both of us! >>>> >>>> It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy.... Of course they >>>> don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year >>>> plan" >>>> No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new >>>> iPhone 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract). >>>> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features >>>> as I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 >>>> over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 >>>> to my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be >>>> what they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't >>>> call it a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which >>>> is pretty close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it >>>> pays for itself mostly over that 2 year period….. >>>> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I >>>> ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol. >>>> >>>> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can >>>> be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ummmmed and arrrrred >>>> about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more >>>> reviews and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 >>>> standard. It goes into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss >>>> the few "extra features" for me anyway. >>>> >>>> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy >>>> that just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his >>>> hand as he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like >>>> wildfire around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool >>>> "Perth camp out" forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect >>>> and not marked, so wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! >>>> >>>> Enjoy! >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6) >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form >>>> of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>>> that permission by the author be requested. >>>> >>>> On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Susan! >>>> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera >>>> comparisons between 5S and 6. >>>> Very interesting!! >>>> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month >>>> :) >>>> blitto >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> wamug@wamug.org.au >>>> >>>> To: >>>> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Cc: >>>> >>>> Sent: >>>> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800 >>>> Subject: >>>> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+ >>>> >>>> >>>> This may be of interest. 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