Hi Titus

Thanks for the detailed explanation and the documentation link. 
Unfortunately my confusion doesnt get clarified.

As you said for an element which eventually displays, for example a pop up 
that appears due to a user action, we can read the text by

*scenario 1*
"my_element.when_present.text" because when_present get info from element 
that eventually *displays*

The above changed to my_element.text, post Watir6.0 as the wait was made 
automatic

*scenario 2*
"my_element.wait_until(&:present?).text" also waits for the element to be 
displayed like "my_element.when_present.text"
So they are one and the same.

Because they are one and the same and post Watir6.0 the when_present wait 
was made automatic we can achieve the above objective with "my_element.text"

So there will never be a case where we have to use wait_until(&:present?).

This is my theory.
Is that correct?

Cheers
Navi


On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:52:33 UTC+10, NaviHan wrote:
>
> This is something that keeps me a bit sceptic when I write and read the 
> automation code in my project.
> This used PageObjects.
>
> I have seen extensive use of element referces, for example 
>
> button(:add_to_bag, :css => '#add-to-cart')
> add_to_bag.element.when_present.click
>
>
>
> instead of 
>
> add_to_bag 
>
> which directly clicks the element
>
> I have also seen extensive use of referencing elements using 
> <element>.when_present, <element>.wait_until_present etc
>
> Im confused where we should draw the line when deciding to reference the 
> element and actually using it(as in directly calling "add_o_bag" in the above 
> example to click the element.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>

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