On further inspection they contain all the stuff to build them as well, it
really looks like they should be in a different repo. Or at least not
included in a release. Not sure what we should do here...

Thanks
Angus Turner
[email protected]


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Angus Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Ali,
> Maybe the easiest thing with the whitepaper and spec directories is to
> move them onto the wiki. seems a bit weird to have documentation like that
> included within a release...
>
> Once I've got them locally I'll submit a review request with those folders
> deleted...
>
> Thanks
> Angus Turner
> [email protected]
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Alain Levesque 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> +1 since 2010 and it's never, never and did I mention never to late.
>> Bravo!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ali Lown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Looking back over this, in preparation of doing some more work on this.
>> > Comments/questions inlined:
>> >
>> > > - Unusual CHANGES file: I usually see people adding issue numbers our
>> of
>> > > Jira
>> >
>> > The Wave Jira is fairly incomplete wrt. actual changes that have
>> > occurred. (I would estimate about half of the changes have Jira
>> > tickets, all recent ones have review board numbers, but early commits
>> > have neither).
>> >
>> > As such, I saw it mentioned in the Common's guide that the use of an
>> > 'svn log' instead was not strange.
>> >
>> > What do you suggest doing with this instead?
>> >
>> > > - Example NOTICE file:
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/example-NOTICE.txt
>> > ,
>> >
>> > Ok. I shall rewrite this to be in that style.
>> >
>> > > Mockito is not mentioned with link as the others
>> >
>> > Will be added. :)
>> >
>> > > - server-config.xml, jsongadgets.json, jaas.config no license. Maybe
>> > others
>> > > too? Please utilize: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/ it's a great
>> tool to
>> > > check our licenses
>> >
>> > Rat looks useful. I will add a note to the release page and on the
>> > wiki, but I think it will be easiest to run standalone ATM. (Perhaps
>> > it can be made part of the mavenized process though).
>> >
>> > > - request_codereview wrong license (Google Inc)?
>> >
>> > I am not even sure why this file hasn't been deleted yet. It was only
>> > used for the old Google code reviews, and doesn't work with
>> > review-board. (And has no reason to be made to work with it). I will
>> > remove this file.
>> >
>> > > - files in /spec - allowed to distribute? No License given, where do
>> > these
>> > > files come from?
>> >
>> > These files are the whitepapers behind the conversation and federation
>> > protocols that Google wrote. Should I just add the license header to
>> > them and leave them where they are?
>> >
>> > > - src folder: we usually use org.apache prefix. Not seen any classes
>> with
>> > > that
>> >
>> > Heh. You are correct that the org.apache prefix is not used at-all.
>> > The majority of the code lives under the org.waveprotocol namespace
>> > (for legacy reasons). Changing to use org.apache is a fairly major
>> > undertaking, and would serve little purpose if the next release is
>> > going to be mavenized (with the full codebase relocation that brings).
>> >
>> > > - thirdparty: allowed to distribute? Check with compatible licenses.
>> Full
>> > > list whats working what not is here:
>> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
>> >
>> > My understanding from the work Angus did is that these are all under
>> > licenses allowing distribution. We have an ant task (ant
>> > get-third-party) for the few we are not allowed to distribute.
>> >
>> > > - Wave Logo (/war) seems to miss TM symbol. Please check:
>> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
>> >
>> > I assume you are referring to war/static/logo.png. Notably this is a
>> > different image to the logo used on the incubator website. (Which also
>> > lacks a TM).
>> >
>> > Which of these should be used? Should they both have a trademark?
>> >
>> > > - Whats the meaning of wave-0.4-release folder?
>> >
>> > A good question. I don't remember seeing that before, but it
>> > definitely shouldn't be there. :P
>> > (It appears my branch folder wasn't quite as clean as I thought).
>> >
>> > > - Whats the meaning of whitepapers folder?
>> >
>> > This holds the rest of the whitepapers, but these are older than the
>> > ones in spec/, and are no-longer fully up-to-date wrt. the code.
>> > Though still often contain useful information explaining why something
>> > has been done in the way that it has.
>> >
>> > Should I just add the license header and leave them there?
>> >
>> > Alternatively, perhaps spec/ and whitepapers/ would be better licensed
>> > and moved into doc/?
>> >
>> > Ali
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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