Chris: Once again thanks for your clarifications.

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On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Chris Mear <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Chris Mear
> <[email protected]<
> https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp/402/?source=na&hr=1&hl=en-GB>>
> wrote:
>
> > On 4 Jun 2013, at 20:03, Alfredo Abambres <[email protected]<
> https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp/402/?source=na&hr=1&hl=en-GB>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Was the OpenWave logo submitted to the organization responsible for
> > > certification of TM or R in the US or any other country by Google or
> > Apache?
> > >
> > > If not, then we cannot (legally) use the TM symbol or the "trademark"
> > word.
> >
> > The TM symbol is specifically for use on unregistered trademarks:
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/TrademarkSymbolsFactSheet.aspx
>
> On Tuesday, 4 June 2013, Alfredo Abambres wrote:
>
> > Chris: thanks for the link.
> >
> > Copy/pasting the first point of the page:
> >
> > 1. What does the symbol TM mean?
> >
> > The symbol TM is used to provide notice of a claim of rights in a
> > trademark. A TM is usually used in connection with an unregistered
> > trademark and is used to inform potential infringers that a term, slogan,
> > logo, or other indicator is being claimed as a trademark. Use of the
> symbol
> > TM does not guarantee that the owner's mark will be protected under
> > trademark laws.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > It seems that we can use the TM if an "object" _is being claimed as a
> > trademark_, however it doesn't guarantee any legal protection.
> >
> > So, my questions now are: What "is being claimed" means? Usage of the
> > "mark" constitutes a "claim"? Or "is being claimed" means that "someone
> > initiated a formal registration process for that mark"?
>
>
> Nothing to do with formal registration (AFAIK. IANAL.). Rather, we are
> making a public statement every time we use those marks that "we believe
> these names/logos uniquely identify this particular product, and we think
> this is important". That's all the claim is.
>
> In the future, if somebody else tries to use those marks in a
> damaging/fraudulent way, we have some evidence we can point back to. We can
> show that we've been using those names/logos as trademarks; the fact that
> we put 'TM' next to them every time is a demonstration of that.
>
> This doesn't provide the same level of protection as an official
> registration. But part of trademark law (and which is different from
> copyright and patent law) is that you can claim a company has 'abandoned' a
> trademark if they can't show evidence of using and protecting the
> trademark. Using 'TM' helps us build up evidence that we are using and
> protecting the trademark, without having to go through the (expensive,
> time-consuming) process of registration.
>
> Chris
>

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