On 29 October 2010 10:44, Vega <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm, I don't see a way how "password reset mechanism" can be outside
> of the
> authenticated world. Admin should be authenticated into something (DB
> at least).
>

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. Yes, admins should be authenticated when
administering the user database.

Any self-password-reset mechanism would need to be unauthenticated (but then
rely on some other verification system, like sending an email to a known
address).



> If you want the most simple wavy password reset mechanism - do it with
> agent.
> -Invite agent into wave.
> -Issue password reset command
> -Agent has the access to users accounts, so it can check if the user
> is authorized for such action, if so - it resets the password. Cannot
> be simpler than that and easy to implement - and still wavy.
>

I love your passion for implementing things the wavy way! Experience has
taught me that it's more complex than you make it out, though.


>
> On Oct 29, 1:26 am, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I happen to agree with Vega that hosting profile information in Wave has
> > many advantages. However I disagree just on one piece: the login
> > information. I do think the username and password need to
> > be manageable outside of Wave itself. They provide kind of a minimal
> > bootstrapping environment you need. First you get a username and
> password,
> > then you can log into Wave.
> >
> > Clearly the password reset mechanism needs to be outside of the
> > authenticated world. I think it's simplest to put basic password
> management
> > (changing your password when you already know it) outside of waves too.
> > Building data models in Wave is nice and flexible, but it's a lot of
> > overhead for something as basic as login credentials.
> >
> > In many cases, authentication will be delegated to some other system,
> LDAP
> > for example. We're just trying to implement something basic for groups
> that
> > don't have such a system.
> >
> > On 29 October 2010 05:03, Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > The advantage is obvious - you have everything in one place. Another
> > > advantage - the Wave environment - it means an option for extension.
> > > For example you can create a simple profile wave. Then you (or some
> > > 3rd party) can add extension that would import user info from facebook
> > > etc...
> >
> > > On Oct 28, 1:03 pm, x00 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Even if you have a gadget, you still need an interface to do the
> > > > management. I don't see much advantage of embedding this within a
> > > > wavelet.
> >
> > > --
> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> > > "Wave Protocol" group.
> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > > [email protected]<wave-protocol%[email protected]>
> <wave-protocol%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com>
> > > .
> > > For more options, visit this group at
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Wave Protocol" group.
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> [email protected]<wave-protocol%[email protected]>
> .
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Wave 
Protocol" group.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
[email protected].
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.

Reply via email to