Phillip J. Eby wrote: > To put it another way, I see an opportunity here to > educate developers about better ways of doing things,
I (and some of the other CherryPy devs) agree that there are better ways, particularly when using a persistent server process. > ...rather than to institutionalize wasteful > ways of doing them. The issue for us as framework developers is that the wasteful ways are *already* institutionalized. Education is a worthy goal, but if it takes 5 years to convince a majority of Python web developers that they don't need sessions, we need safe and strong implementations of sessions in the interim. I think that if we chose to ship CherryPy, for example, without any session functionality, we'd lose the very audience we want to educate. > But I realize that I'm apparently the only > person who thinks that way, so I'll shut up now. > (At least here, anyway; in general I'm still going > to talk about sessions being Considered Harmful from > both the scalability and simplicity perspectives.) Please continue talking about it! [But as you say, probably not within this thread ;)]. I never use sessions, and am interested in communicating the benefits of that approach to a wider audience. Robert Brewer System Architect Amor Ministries [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Web-SIG mailing list Web-SIG@python.org Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/web-sig/archive%40mail-archive.com