:-) > It's the same as trying a 4-5 dimensional dict/list with 3-4 elements > each. You don't want to be doing that either.
with helpers you get a clear advantage: you can easily get rid of them if you want, sometimes more difficult with lists. > > > - a clean separation between markup and logic is advisable or you > > fall in java servlets or php > > Been there, done that for quite a while, I agree with what you say > above, but do not consider helpers markup. what about an unnecessary layer of code? > > > - the "everything in controllers" style easily leads to messy code > > (see example above) > > Yes, helpers, just as almost any other pattern, can be abused. You > don't use helpers to generate static html or complete pages/gigantic > forms from it - I agree that the example you give is an example how > NOT to use helpers (unless you're MDP ;) - but not as an example > helpers should not be used in controllers. You should use it to handle/ > prepare dynamic data, in small, understandable chunks, if it's static -> it's > a view. If it's complex -> it needs to be broken up and > > assembled in the view. Don't be afraid to manipulate helper objects > from a view ! what I wanted to prove is that mainstream web2py examples and even the book seem to promote a coding style which easily can lead to the above example. Forms with 4 fields and 2 tables are good, but if you have 10 fields and 10 table datasource? > You could just the same way return a string containing markup or raw > javascript which would be just as bad, but that does not mean > returning variables breaks MVC, but that you misuse the mechanism. About MVC we do not agree. I share this line: http://groups.google.it/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/4cd0a75de54f32aa/6312be3940d30fa4?lnk=gst&q=mvc#6312be3940d30fa4 http://groups.google.it/group/web2py/msg/c096da7eb69c4d64 and other Billf tries to free from forms in controllers. > > - one of the best solution at the moment is Tim Farrell's (see link > > above) > > Glad you like it, but can we vote ? :) yes you can, it is explicit in the topic question mark :) > There, promised not to respond, but still had to :) Must ... > resist ... :) I will give you the last word, I promise :) carlo --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
