You're right.  I don't see this for production.  But it would be nice
to distribute a  "fully" self contained trial version of an app for
non-python-literate, non-developer,  potential app users,  to take for
a spin on localhost. At any rate, it's something I'll explore on my
own.

On Mar 1, 2:43 pm, Jason Brower <encomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just used pil today, and I don't think it's a good idea.  I think if
> we keep it as small as possible we can really make a powerful system.
> A plugin system would be nice for non python OS's for example mac and
> windows, it would be easier to use the import tools in python to get
> PIL, for example.  But in linux distros almost always have packages to
> handle this stuff.  You may get an uproar if you skipped the distros way
> of installing new python libraries.
> Regards,
> Jason
>
> On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 12:30 -0800, Greg Fuller wrote:
> > True enough.  Could probably do a plugin which would  test for the
> > environment, import as, etc.  Then the work could still be shared
> > without loading down the base.
>
> > But darnit, I was hoping all 842 members would raise their voices in
> > unison for this idea.  :)
>
> > --greg--
>
> > On Mar 1, 2:15 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > since YOU can package your distribution for a target environment (and are
> > > free to include what additional libraries your application for your client
> > > needs), it seems to me no reason to load down a base distribution with 
> > > other
> > > than what is always used, and base development support.
>
> > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Greg Fuller <gregf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I've noticed a good number, and probably a sizable percentage,  of
> > > > web2py applications are using PIL.  Same with Django.   I'm not sure
> > > > that's true of NumPy or any other external app.  But I do see the
> > > > point.
>
> > > > On Mar 1, 1:54 pm, Markus Gritsch <m.grit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Greg Fuller <gregf...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > IMHO, I would be a great benefit to web2py to have PIL included if 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > could be done with good success rate - not even 100%.  Maybe it 
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > initially be included as an "experimental" capability or something.
>
> > > > > Massimo is right with his arguments agaimst inclusion.  The next would
> > > > > come and would like to have NumPy or some other big Package included.
> > > > > Let's keep the binary package reasonably small, and not create a
> > > > > monster which would be hard to maintain.
>
> > > > > Markus
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