so develop web2py in VS and not in the integrated admin interface :P I was referring to the fact that there is no python compiler for typescript (other IDE "advertised" have only the syntax highlight feature, not the auto-compile feature)
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:40:31 PM UTC+1, Arnon Marcus wrote: > > Hmmm, not exactly. > > You CAN use node for/with it, but there are also IDE plugins. > I'm using Visual Studio 2012 (trial) and it compiles-on-save > automatically, with a side-by-side updating javascript target file view. > that is being generated as I save. > All the material needed to make such a plugin for any other IDE is > open-sourced, and does not NEED node.js to work at all... > It even minimizes my files for me as well (generates another *-min.js > file). > I can even configure the compiler in the IDE to also auto-generate > source-maps as it auto-compiles-on-save. > This is just another option in the options window of VS, that gets added > when I install the "web-essentials" extension of VS. > This is a huge extension, that also provides auto-compilation of > LESS-to-CSS files, and also minifiezes the resulting CSS files as well > > In a nut-shell: > > Visual Studio 2012 + TypeScript (plugin) + Web-Essentials (extension) = > Auto-Compilation/Source-Map-Generation/Minification of > TypeScript->JavaScript + LESS->CSS > :) > All this with ZERO dependencies and without node.js > :) :) > And I can now debug in Chrome using the original TypeScript files > themselves, using the auto-generated-source-maps-on-save, via the "Use > Source Maps" feature in chrome. > :) :) :) > I can also use use the LESS files in chrome, by using the "Support for > SASS" feature. > :) :) :) :) > Adding the LivePage (auto-reload) chrome-extension rounds up the > real-time-feedback-with-transipling experience. > :) :) :) :) :) > All the above, without web2py or node.js (!) > > Here is a better video-presentation for TypeScript: > http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Anders-Hejlsberg-Introducing-TypeScript > > Here is how Source-Maps work: > http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/developertools/sourcemaps/ > > LivePage extension: > > https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/livepage/pilnojpmdoofaelbinaeodfpjheijkbh?hl=en > > On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:12:26 PM UTC+2, Niphlod wrote: >> >> anoher node.js dependancy ^_^ >> >> Il giorno mercoledì 19 dicembre 2012 15:53:45 UTC+1, Arnon Marcus ha >> scritto: >>> >>> I'm starting to fall in love with TypeScript... >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dqZW_DqHIQ >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:21:33 AM UTC+2, Arnon Marcus wrote: >>>> >>>> That sounds very cool, thanks for the detailed answered, this makes my >>>> head a little calmer now... >>>> >>>> BTW, I actually DID mean coffeCup, It refers to the python module that >>>> does coffeeScript-to-javascript transipling. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/dsc/coffeecup >>>> >>>> Apparently, it also depends on node... >>>> >>>> Anyways, I think i'm sarting to lean more towards TypeScript anyways, >>>> so... >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 17, 2012 2:26:38 PM UTC-8, Niphlod wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, December 17, 2012 2:50:09 PM UTC+1, Arnon Marcus wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Holy shit... >>>>>> >>>>>> Where did you say you got all that info from? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> quoted the link and scanning the source code >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Is this what that module needs? >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it's just a stand-alone pythonic-module doing everything... >>>>>> Guess I was a bit optimistic... >>>>>> >>>>>> little bit too much :P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What about coffeeCup? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> meaning coffeescript ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - is it just something like "edit the less file in >>>>>> static/less/file.less and have it recompiled as /static/css/file.css" >>>>>> Well, either that and/or sass/scss, as well as coffescript >>>>>> transpiling, with optional minification/zipping for the resaulting >>>>>> js/css, >>>>>> yeah, basically that. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not that much advanced, but as long as there is a "list of >>>>> extensions" that follow the same rule, a contrib script continuosly >>>>> checking for changed files is not hard to do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> But if there is ANY need for node.js in this kind of solution, than >>>>>> forget it. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I gave you the list of what webasset provide with python modules. I >>>>> think the author researched a lot and resorted to external binaries only >>>>> when needed >>>>> >>>>> Is web2py minifying css/js scripts by default? If so, in what >>>>>> circumstances? And since what version? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> nope. Web2py includes contrib.minify (containing jsmin and cssmin) >>>>> that is activated by response.optimize_css and response.optimize_js . >>>>> It's >>>>> a feature I think since 1.99.7. >>>>> >>>>> Gzipping is not done within web2py. Usually that is something done >>>>> only one-time-only before releasing to production and for that there is >>>>> scripts/zip_static_files.py (meant to be run from shell as web2py.py -S >>>>> yourapp -R scripts/zip_static_files.py). It creates automatically .gz >>>>> files >>>>> with the same mtime in order to be recognized as valid replacement by >>>>> apache, nginx & co. Standalone web2py serves automatically gz files in >>>>> the >>>>> static folder with the same mtime without any configuration at all >>>>> (meaning >>>>> that a request for /app/static/js/jquery.js as long as there is a >>>>> /app/static/js/jquery.js.gz with the same mtime will serve the gzipped >>>>> one >>>>> automatically) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --
