I already like web3py... I found myself scratching my head more and more as I build complexe form, and the more I learn about Angular.js the more my problem seems fade away, though it seems to me that I will have to write more code than with web2py. Data binding is great, but it make field validation error trigger at the first input character that is anoying for the end user. There should be a fix for that soon so it kind of reproduce server side validation - waiting submit to be press before trigger error message.
:) Richard On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Massimo Di Pierro < massimo.dipie...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am learning Angular.js and the more I read about it the more I love it. > > Yet I think Angular.js is not web2py but Angular.js may be for web3py (or > however we call it). > > Web2py has a design which is MVC and the V(iews) are created serverside > using a template language. Angular is not a replacement for jQuery. It is a > replacement for the template language. The purpose of angular is that > building one page applications that talk to the server using almost > exclusively web services. So Angular aims to replace something that is > fundamental in web2py, its server side MVC architecture. > > Yet I can imagine a future where we retain: > - the web IDE > - the dal.py (because it is great) > - a lighter version of dispathing and routing (perhaps bottle.py) > - the web2py form generation (or the new form.py in gluino) and server > side form validation > - the web2py RESTful services (or something better) > But we ditch web2py templates completely, we use angular for client-side > templates, and we only communicate data from client-server using json. > > A minor problem with all of this is that some times one needs to generate > HTML based on the value of variables that should not be exposed to the > user. For example I may have a green button if I have a positive bank > account balance and a red button if the balance is negative, but I may not > want to show the balance. In web2py this is easy. In Angular one would have > to create a new variable (boolean) pass it to the client and have the > client decide the color based on the boolean. Angular constrains you more > but forces you to be more disciplined. > > > Massimo > > > On Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:06:03 UTC-6, Richard wrote: > >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18414012/why-use- >> angularjs-instead-of-jquery >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13151725/how-is- >> angular-js-different-from-jquery >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14994391/how-do-i- >> think-in-angularjs-if-i-have-a-jquery-background >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Richard Vézina >> <ml.richa...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> jQuery vs Angular you can't make that kind of simple comparaison they >>> both design for solving different kind of problem. jQuery is good as >>> manipulating DOM element. Angular is design to make very easy the >>> development of SPA... >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Arvind Gupta <arvind.b...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> There is enough buzz around Angular over net, I haven't program web2py >>>> also. I have to choose django vs web2py for a personal project, I m >>>> evaluating my options, Which is easy to get started, Angular or Jquery? >>>> >>>> -arvind >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Richard Vézina >>>> <ml.richa...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your question is vague... I suggest you to listen a couple of video on >>>>> youtube about Angular.js... There is many talk about what the limitation >>>>> you face using Angular.js and jQuery for instance, since Angular.js use a >>>>> different paradigm at generating dom instead of manipulating it. So there >>>>> is thing that works if you manipulate dom with angular and thing that >>>>> don't >>>>> work and make thing disconnected. I just start learning Angular so can't >>>>> help you that much... >>>>> >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Arvind Gupta >>>>> <arvind.b...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @derek and @richard if we have to create generic support of other >>>>>> javascript libraries, what are the efforts one have to make? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Richard Vézina < >>>>>> ml.richa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good point Derek, I saw it in angular.js file when I test the slice >>>>>>> (that at least work), as you say it is a cleaner approach... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Derek <sp1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no, no, no, do not use that slice, it's a waste of time to edit the >>>>>>>> angular.js file itself. you want to do that every time a new version is >>>>>>>> released? also why not just use a cdn for angular.js? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/provider/$interpolateProvider# >>>>>>>> startSymbol >>>>>>>> The above link shows how to do it properly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a snippet from their 'sample' code... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> var customInterpolationApp = angular.module('customInterpolationApp', >>>>>>>> []); >>>>>>>> customInterpolationApp.config(function($interpolateProvider) { >>>>>>>> $interpolateProvider.startSymbol('//'); >>>>>>>> $interpolateProvider.endSymbol('//'); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That changes the start and end symbols to '//' but you could just >>>>>>>> as easily change them to '[[' and ']]' or '||' and '||' or whatever you >>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:19:14 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.web2pyslices.com/slice/show/1922/web2py-angularjs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Change angular {{ }} for {! !} >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Having to type to different character bug me though, but you need >>>>>>>>> a closing tag... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> :( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Derek <sp1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and to note you can change the brackets in angular to use >>>>>>>>>> something else... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> see here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$interpolate >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> by default it uses {{ and }} as starting and ending brackets. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:59:48 PM UTC-7, Derek wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, the problem you have is that if you put angular tags in >>>>>>>>>>> your views, they will be parsed with the template parser of web2py >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> error. The way to avoid that is to use the angular classes instead. >>>>>>>>>>> For >>>>>>>>>>> example, all the 'ng-app' and 'ng-controller' and 'ng-repeat' >>>>>>>>>>> attributes ( >>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.angularjs.org/tutorial/step_02). 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