This is a very intriguing development. It would be interesting to see
real-world usage statistics (what percent of apps are all or mostly js UI, vs.
traditional backend-sends-html UI),
but since that would be pretty hard to get, the next best metric would be for
developers to
give an indication of how much work is front-end or back-end or hybrid.
Could a wrapper be written around JForm to send HTML if desired? (or is that
too kludgey). At
least then one "engine" could generate the data to be consumed up the stack.
On a philosophical level, it goes to a primary question: what is the "purpose"
of web2py ? From its
humble beginnings as a teaching tool, it has come a long way. Massimo, have you
(or any of the
core architects) published a roadmap for the next few years?
Don
On Sep 5, 2014, at 13:05, Vinicius Assef <vinicius...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't agree with killing a way to send formed html to client.
>
> Web2py is for backend development, in spite of most clients run js,
> some of them, don't. There are non-js clients. wget is one of them. I
> know, it's not widely used, but depending on your application, it is a
> client of it.
>
> As I explained at the other message, I don't agree with killing a way
> to generate backend form html.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
> <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Please find attached a welcome4.zip with contains the following files:
>>
>> controllers/default.py
>> views/layout.html
>> vides/default/index.html
>> modules/jform.py
>> static/js/jform.js
>> static/js/jform-bootstrap2.js
>> static/js/jform-bootstrap3.js
>>
>> My proposal is the following:
>> 1) deprecate SQLFORM (but keep it for backward compatibility)
>> 2) replace
>>
>> form = SQLFORM(table).process()
>> ...
>> {{=form}}
>>
>> with
>>
>> form = JForm(table)
>> ...
>> {{=form}}
>>
>> what is the difference? SQLFORM generates html. JForm generates JSON
>> metadata which is then converted into the form client-side by the js in
>> jform.js.
>> why?
>> - it is much faster because all rendering is done client-side
>> - it can "optionally" submit the form via Ajax without having to change your
>> code.
>> - it is much easier to style and create widgets for different css
>> frameworks.
>> For example include the right one:
>> static/js/jform-bootstrap2.js
>> static/js/jform-bootstrap3.js (I only provide a layout for bs2 and not bs3)
>> - it is much more powerful because you can customize widgets in JS.
>>
>> We could also add a JTable, a JMenu and a JLogin and keep all the styling
>> info in JS files as opposed to Python files.
>> This would make web2py leaner and cleaner.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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