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Have a good read... :) Richard On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Jim S <j...@qlf.com> wrote: > +1 > > On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: >> >> I would like to suggest a way to get out of these recurrent >> discussions... >> >> Why not adopt some guidance around the issue... I think the heart of the >> problem here is that not knowing what is coming or not make people insecure >> about the future of what is built (or could be build) with web2py. It may >> be true that no big corporate are not using Python 3 at the moment, though >> distros have already started sending the message that Python 3 is coming... >> To my knowledge, since 3.4 Python 3 is consider to be ready for real >> work... >> >> So, maybe we could write a section in the book about web2py and Python 3 >> support, if the book is not the place we can put a text file in github >> somewhere in web2py about that and maybe a TODO-List of what is need to be >> done... Or a Roadmap on the web2py Web site... There is plenty of options >> to document out this "issue" and what is know about it and what is the >> heart of this issue... Also, if web2py will have to break it promise for >> backward compatibility or not and if it breaks it what work to expect in >> our apps to make them work in "web3py", etc. >> >> There is many threads on the mailing-lists... A good start could be to >> retrieve them and read them to extract the important things?? >> >> Like that when the question pop again we can redirect people to the >> Documentation/Roadmap and they can make a better informed decision about >> using web2py or not, waiting for Python 3 support by web2py or not, etc. >> >> Thanks, regards >> >> Richard >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Stuart Rolinson <stu...@eventsense.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I wanted to add to this discussion as well. I think that developing >>> with python 2.7 and web2py has been fine, however I have been really >>> concerned as my application gets bigger that we are going to have to >>> migrate to a .net or java based solution in the future. The more I >>> develop, the more I worry about the amount of re-work I am creating for >>> myself in the future. I would feel better about my decision to choose >>> web2py if this supported the current version of the product. >>> >>> I am not sure my Python abilities are good enough yet to be heavily >>> involved in a conversion from 2.7 - 3.5, but I would be happy to help where >>> I can once my current project is implemented. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:48:46 PM UTC-7, Paolo Valleri wrote: >>>> >>>> Just to understand what we are talking about, which are the main issues >>>> in porting web2py on python 3.x ? >>>> >>>> Paolo >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:24:30 PM UTC+1, Ramos wrote: >>>>> >>>>> weppy looks like a short webp2y environment, however lacks some good >>>>> documentation like web2py and all of the code samples are very short and >>>>> errors come often. >>>>> Seems that the only one helping is the "creator" itself. >>>>> Unfortunately i dont see it as a good alternative to web2py. >>>>> >>>>> At least web2py has a lot of people helping everybody. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-11-13 17:49 GMT+00:00 Jim S <j...@qlf.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> What are the chances that weppy (www.weppy.org) becomes the Python 3 >>>>>> version of web2py? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm working with the newly available, officially supported Python >>>>>> implementation on IBM i (formerly AS/400) and it is Python version 3.4 so >>>>>> web2py isn't an option for me. Is there any news or direction for people >>>>>> forced to use Python 3? I really don't want to give up my web2py >>>>>> knowledge >>>>>> and move to another framework. The other big guns (django, flask, >>>>>> bottle, >>>>>> pyramid) all have Python 3 versions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:41:49 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not think it is a secret. As far as I know the security pricing >>>>>>> infrastructure of Bank of America is based on proprietary object >>>>>>> database >>>>>>> built in Python and the JP Morgan Chase has been working for some time >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> an internal trading platform based on Python (do not know if it is in >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> at this time). Also I have consulted with some local trading companies >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Chicago that use Python+pytable+numpy+hdf5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a source >>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-banks-like-JP-Morgan-and-Bank-of-America-Merrill-Lynch-using-Python-to-replace-historic-legacy-systems-built-in-Java-C++ >>>>>>> but I have my own sources. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact a friend told me Bank of America uses web2py too although >>>>>>> not for business critical apps where they use proprietary code, but for >>>>>>> interfacing some of their Air Conditioning systems. I have been unable >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> verify this information. I know other banks or large financial >>>>>>> institutions >>>>>>> that also use web2py for some of internal non-business critical >>>>>>> development. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Massimo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:34:41 UTC-6, Ramos wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What banks? can you share that info ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2015-11-11 15:21 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo....@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As of today python 3 is used almost exclusively in schools. Do you >>>>>>>>> know of any large company that uses Python 3? I do not. But I know >>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> large companies that use Python 2, including banks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, 9 November 2015 01:36:40 UTC-6, Remco Boerma wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great one Alex. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> While searching for web2py and python3 the first result i got was >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/31ai10/web2py_python3/> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi...I m total beginner in python with elastic search also >>>>>>>>>>> Unicode ... I am looking for a wonderful framework & was keen on >>>>>>>>>>> web2py..but just happened to read that its not compatible with >>>>>>>>>>> python 3.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pl guide me abt this issue & in selecting framework >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With regards to all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been asked to start a new internship-company for a project >>>>>>>>>> i'm involved in. And I so want to take those boys and girls on the >>>>>>>>>> web2py >>>>>>>>>> path, but to ask of those new-to-the-market to invest in a legacy >>>>>>>>>> language >>>>>>>>>> (2020 is only 4 years from now) is something that feels odd to me. >>>>>>>>>> Especially since i know the power and grace of web2py. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know the subject has been debated and debated but for the sake >>>>>>>>>> of these students (and these are not the high university kind, but >>>>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>>>> the ground-work and getting-stuff-done folks) i would kindly ask to >>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>> the future into consideration as well as our marketing because >>>>>>>>>> web2py is >>>>>>>>>> simply droped out of the equation because of py2. I would love to >>>>>>>>>> teach >>>>>>>>>> those kids web2py and be future proof. Many schools already teach >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> from a hundred years ago, let's not do that in IT as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank your for considering. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op vrijdag 6 november 2015 23:57:33 UTC+1 schreef Alex: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> web2py for python 3 would be great. I hope it comes rather >>>>>>>>>>> sooner than later. I'd love to use python 3, no more str <-> unicode >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense (which already caused many issues and wasted time for me), >>>>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>>> hints (seems to have good support in PyCharm) and other new >>>>>>>>>>> features. I >>>>>>>>>>> think the current situation could also scare away potential new >>>>>>>>>>> users when >>>>>>>>>>> they see that web2py does not support python 3. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pyDAL seems to be already compatible with python 3. Is it not >>>>>>>>>>> possible to make the remaining parts also compatible or are there >>>>>>>>>>> completely new concepts planned? I for one would completely remove >>>>>>>>>>> the FORM >>>>>>>>>>> code - it's nice and easy to get something up and running but >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to >>>>>>>>>>> style (no clear separation of backend/frontend) and extend. I'm >>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>> knockout (I guess any data binding js lib will do fine) which is >>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>> flexible and easy to understand. That should be the preferred way >>>>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>>> forms and recommended in the book. But that's just my opinion. No >>>>>>>>>>> more FORM >>>>>>>>>>> would mean less code to port to python 3 ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 4:37:56 PM UTC+1, Ramos wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @massimo >>>>>>>>>>>> When will it be available ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-04 14:38 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro < >>>>>>>>>>>> massimo....@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be a new framework similar to web2py for python 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>> web2py has to be backward compatible and it is pointless to port >>>>>>>>>>>>> it to >>>>>>>>>>>>> python 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 06:25:40 UTC-6, Jim Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this has come up in the past, but it hasn't been asked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there ever going to be a usable and maintained >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python3-compatible fork of web2py? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest edition of Fedora now ships with Python3 by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default. It's the default version used in Django's tutorial. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not using Python3 now, but I can see the day when I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitably will. I don't want to invest the time in a framework >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to abandon it later. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Resources: >>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "web2py-users" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to web2py+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Resources: >>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com >>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>>>>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "web2py-users" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to web2py+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Resources: >>>>>> - http://web2py.com >>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "web2py-users" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to web2py+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> Resources: >>> - http://web2py.com >>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "web2py-users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to web2py+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > Resources: > - http://web2py.com > - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) > - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) > - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "web2py-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. 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