What I want is allowing user for put limited string but they can't submit 
the form with an empty field. 

requires = IS_EMPTY_OR([IS_LENGTH(8), IS_NOT_EMPTY()] )

That don't work. Obviously not because its conflicting. Right? In one hand 
I am saying empty or insert value (8) and then saying can't be empty. Do we 
have any other validators that I can try with takes those two arguments?

On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:06:03 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>
> to my knowledge, the general rule for validators is that if you have 
> multiple requirements, you should pass a list.
> That being said, the are "special" validator, like IS_EMPTY_OR, that take 
> a validator as an argument.
>
> Goes without saying (it quite translates well), that 
> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(8)) EITHER accepts nothing or a string shorter than 8 
> chars.
> Now, the "deal". How would you consider a field in a form that is not 
> filled ? None or '' ?
>
> IS_NOT_EMPTY() prevents an empty input.
>
> it's not clear what you want, but I guess something got cleared with my 
> previous comments.
> Also, validators ONLY apply when you use them: forms, 
> validate_and_insert(), validate_and_update(), etc. Using validators only is 
> perfectly fine if you let the app validate each and every input.
> length=123 enforces the underlying column to be of that length, but if you 
> want meaningful errors, you need to use validators anyways.  
>
> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 5:54:29 PM UTC+2, Ron Chatterjee wrote:
>>
>> In other words, if I do this: 
>>
>> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(8))
>>
>> It prevents longer length string but the empty field is inserted as None. 
>> I want to prevent both.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:54:08 AM UTC-4, Ron Chatterjee wrote:
>>>
>>> Two question, if you don't mind.
>>>
>>> (1) requires = IS_NOT_EMPTY(IS_LENGTH(64)) Or requires = 
>>> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(64)) Doesn't work. In other words, if I want to limit 
>>> the string field entry but also want requires not empty, how to go about it?
>>>
>>> (2) for my sql, do I still need length = 64 (or 255 etc)? Its redundant 
>>> when I define IS_LENGTH(64) or do I need both?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>
>>>> requires=IS_LENGTH(64) will limit insertion upon validation. the 
>>>> "length" attribute gets translated, wherever possibile, to 
>>>> backend-specific 
>>>> syntaxes.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 4:21:22 AM UTC+2, billy...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How we limit string length in DAL? It seems length = 64 doesn't work. 
>>>>>
>>>>

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