Hi Benigno, thanks for commenting and info on Paypal NVP.  I hope to
be able to try out your code on eStore when it becomes available.

As another e-commerce example, I know EC-CUBE (http://www.ec-
cube.net), which is open-source, written in PHP,  and lists support
for credit payment procedures with Paygent, Webmoney, Softbank payment
service, GMO payment gateway, F-REGI, Zeus, Sophia, Epsilon and
remise. Couldn't find support for Paypal or Goole Checkout. Sorry the
site is only in Japanese.  It  is managed by a company who provides
voluntary services for the community as well as paid support services
to its customers. It calls for developers, committers, partners for
hosting, integration, alliance and design.

It keeps adding features, and now has nice ones including mobile
support, collaboration with SNS, etc. It has wide user-base, and
developer community backed by a company, and it worked fine when I
tried to test-install. So, why not using it instead of developing
another one? Well, I'd like to use Python and web2py because I think
they have a chance to make better applications and development
processes now and in the future.

It is impressive to see it lists a number of agents for payment. Would
it be difficult to port them to Python or web2py? I suppose it
shouldn't be too difficult once the logics layed out clearly, but
others believe it only when it's proven/done. Unfortunately, I'm not
an expert in PHP.

I'm thrilled to hear that Massimo has strong interest in building a
new and more powerful eStore. I will be interested in joining the task
force if I find a role to play in the development.

The discussion on the task forces going on in another thread is
drawing a lot of attention and really "flourishing" :-)  I saw
discussion on esablishing development procedures, creating
documentation basis/system, etc.  It's good to find out what people
want/need thru these discussions. Hope eventually things will be
sorted out, and we'll see a good plan including one on eStore task
force.

--
Teru


On 7月11日, 午前4:57, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I am very much interested in building a new and more powerfuleStore.
> I think we need to setup a task force of people interested int his and
> build one all together. We need somebody willing coordinate and be
> project leader.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Jul 10, 11:45 am, Benigno <bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
>
> >     I just happen to have been playing around both withestoreand
> > with the Paypal Engine that Matt did. (I have the same problem you do,
> > UK is the only country that gets some of googles love in europe, the
> > rest go way behind, so no google checkout here either). Actually
> > Google checkout works only in US, UK (and Canada maybe, if I recall
> > correctly)
>
> >     Anyways, the Engine that Matt did, does NVP, which allows you to
> > integrate Paypal to a different level than most people probably need
> > (which is much more simmilar to what Massimo has on hisEStoreapp).
> > Right now on the Engine that Matt did, you only have the
> > DoDirectPayment already setup (which is to process the data of a
> > transaction for which you hold all the customers data including credit
> > card etc). If you need to do the whole checkout with Paypal with NVP,
> > its a longer process, if I remember ok, you actually first stablish a
> > connection, then you get a token from paypal validating it, you
> > redirect to a URL with that token, then then you get the validation of
> > all the data from the customer, then you process your cart confirming
> > the sale, and get another response giving you the data you would need
> > to show the customer the receipt... its something like this.
>
> >     However, there is a very simple way to set it up that works almost
> > exactly like what Massimo shows for google. I am just in the process
> > of modifyingEStoreto put it in place in a very simplified way, but I
> > am sure you can take it up from there to do whatever you want. I'll
> > send it to Massimo if its ok, as I am building a bit over his code,
> > and would rather he posts it if he feels its ok. I'll try to have it
> > by next monday.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Benigno.
>
> > On 4 jul, 06:20, suiato <homm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > just restarted to work oneStoreyesterday, trying to use it as a
> > > reference for one of my projects.
> > > it's a good and useful example for me to learn translation and system
> > > in web2py.
>
> > > Google checkout for merchants is still not available in countries
> > > other than US and UK, though its application pages now appear here in
> > > Japanese...
>
> > > Found an appliancePayPalEngine by Matt Sellers 
> > > athttp://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/appliances.
> > > Could be integrated intoeStore?
>
> > >eStoremay be old and need a lot of work to be a full-fledged e-
> > > commerce appliance. It'd be nice to have it that way,
> > > but there's another interest in removing fluffy parts and trimming
> > > down to its skeleton. This way, logics will be revealed
> > > more clearly, easy to understand the structure, and easy to extend it
> > > as necessary.
>
> > > Dreaming a dream of the skeletaleStoreto be applied to various
> > > devices like iPhone, mobiles, PDA and others without changing its
> > > logical core...
>
> > > --
> > > Teru
>
> > > On 7月4日, 午前1:41, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > eStoreis now an old app. It needs lots of work.
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Jul 3, 11:36 am, mingodad <mingo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I was caught too by the error messages "too small or too large"
> > > > > I sugest to add the folowing to the css part on layout.html:
>
> > > > > .error { background-color: red; color: white; padding: 3px }
>
> > > > > It was borroed from T3, this way the error messages will not pass
> > > > > unnoticed.
>
> > > > > As well I'm intrigged why the *_bc fields doesn't get the default
> > > > > values like the others !
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