You'll be fine with the new system I believe as long as you're not 
currently using @auth.has_permission.  While you can do it with py4web it 
is more challenging than in web2py.

-Jim

On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-6, Christian Varas wrote:
>
> Hi Jim.
>
> Yes I'm using the auth system permission.
> I'm using 2 decorators in fact
> @auth.requires_membership() and @auth.requires_login()
>
> I'm gonna port my app to py4web then :) 
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers.
> Chris 
>
> El jue., 23 de ene. de 2020 11:27, Jim Steil <ato....@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> escribió:
>
>> Sounds like a great app to do in py4web.  
>>
>>    1. You are already comfortable with javascript.  
>>    2. You're not using grid/smartgrid.  
>>    3. Are you using the web2py auth system with permissions?  If only 
>>    using groups (roles) then this would be great to do with py4web.  
>>    4. Much faster and you get to use Python3.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM Christian Varas <chriii...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all that you share guys.
>>>
>>> I would like to ask for a recommendation.
>>>
>>> I have a web interface made with web2py, this interface manage a web 
>>> application firewall (nginx and modsecurity). It does commands and file 
>>> modifications in the system to manage properly the WAF, the database is 
>>> SQLite.
>>> I don't use sqlform.grid, most of the things in the view are made with 
>>> pure JavaScript and Html, and all the commands to the system are with 
>>> subprocess.
>>> Works pretty fast and without any issue.
>>>
>>> My question is if py4web is ok to do this tasks too, like editing files 
>>> in system, executing commands and task more oriented to the system and not 
>>> to a db.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I have to a small adpatation to my app because modsecurity has a new 
>>> version and they changed some things, and I was thinking that maybe I can 
>>> port all to py4web and have a fresh new start, but I'm not sure..., I love 
>>> web2py and now is easy to me to do things with him.
>>>
>>> Should I stay in web2py? 
>>> Or I should start using py4web for this kind of project?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>> El mié., 22 de ene. de 2020 20:29, Carlos Costa <yamand...@gmail.com 
>>> <javascript:>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing you experience with py4web, Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em qua., 22 de jan. de 2020 às 20:04, Kevin Keller <kell...@gmail.com 
>>>> <javascript:>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> The datatables integration for web2py would be super useful. I'm sure 
>>>>> we could port it over to py4web easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just feel like with all the stuff web2py gave us to get something 
>>>>> quickly going missing, it'd just another api framework and there are 
>>>>> fastapi and apistar as well falcon out..
>>>>>
>>>>> I think having these ease of use stuff back would really hit home and 
>>>>> would also make it easier to port from web2py.
>>>>>
>>>>> And we would be pretty much the Jhipster  of the python world no?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 23:50 Jim S, <ato....@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I will post my main utils.py when I have it working better.  I 
>>>>>> still have to clean up a couple pieces.  It would be up to Massimo if he 
>>>>>> wanted to add it.  But in response to one of my earlier questions I was 
>>>>>> told Massimo kept a utility like this out of py4web so people might use 
>>>>>> better tools like datatables.  And, I doubt my code is 
>>>>>> 'framework-ready'.  
>>>>>> But it could give others insight into how you can work with py4web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of datatables, I wrote a datatables integration for web2py 
>>>>>> last summer.  I think I could also add that to my utils.py pretty 
>>>>>> easily.  
>>>>>> Actually, the datatables piece would be easier that what I've done 
>>>>>> writing 
>>>>>> my own.  Would you use datatables for complete CRUD, or just to list 
>>>>>> your 
>>>>>> table for record selection, etc.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that you mentioned mtable, I too recall hearing that before, but 
>>>>>> haven't gotten in to it at all.  Like I said, I haven't jumped in to the 
>>>>>> client-side javascript much yet, other than jquery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 4:31:11 PM UTC-6, Kevin Keller 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could your helpers be considered to be added to thr py4web code 
>>>>>>> base? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you say you have a sqlform.grid equivalent or something in that 
>>>>>>> direction? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think there was mtable that should take the spot, but haven't seen 
>>>>>>> any examples yet or at least none thst would replace a sqlform or 
>>>>>>> smartgrid. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is not coming I would probaly consider using datatables js in 
>>>>>>> the future. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 21:47 Jim S, <ato....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For me, there is no porting, it is re-writing.  While a lot of the 
>>>>>>>> capabilities are there in py4web not all are part of py4web.  Due to 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> nature of how things work, a lot of the 'global' structures in web2py 
>>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>>> to be handled differently in py4web.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SQLFORM.grid is gone.  FORM replaces SQLFORM but doesn't have all 
>>>>>>>> the features - 
>>>>>>>> https://py4web.com/_documentation/static/index.html#chapter-10
>>>>>>>> auth_group and auth_membership and auth_permission are gone - 
>>>>>>>> authentication/authorization have changed - 
>>>>>>>> https://py4web.com/_documentation/static/index.html#chapter-11
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With those things being what they are, I've been playing with 
>>>>>>>> py4web for a few days now and really am liking it.  It is crazy fast.  
>>>>>>>> You 
>>>>>>>> may have to write some more helpers to do some things that web2py did 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> you, but that's half the fun, isn't it?  For instance, I used the grid 
>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>> web2py's SQLFORM.grid provides for lots of listing pages.  py4web 
>>>>>>>> doesn't 
>>>>>>>> have one so I've written a helper that displays  pages the way my app 
>>>>>>>> wants 
>>>>>>>> to see them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe py4web is going to make it easier to use Vue.js in your 
>>>>>>>> pages, but I haven't made the just to using Vue yet so I can't really 
>>>>>>>> comment on that part.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-6, Carlos Costa 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Massimo, thanks for the great info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about porting apps from web2py to py4web?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What steps would you recommend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 22 de jan. de 2020 às 08:21, AGRogers <roge...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, thanks. Re reporting errors, I suspect most errors will be 
>>>>>>>>>> due to my ignorance. But thanks for the encouragement. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 1:26 PM Massimo Di Pierro <
>>>>>>>>>> massimo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should use the py4web documentation. Also please report any 
>>>>>>>>>>> error you find.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:03:59 UTC-8, Andrew Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is  the documentation for web2py still mostly relevant for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> py4web?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:47:05 UTC+6:30, icodk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I use Web2py or py4web for a brand new project ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is still missing from py4web  ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I debug with pycharm ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need all the great authentication I got with web2py : 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Registration,pass change, groups mail, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> smartgreed will be very nice to have or similar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stability ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can it be deployed with nginx  and pg ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
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>>>>>>>>> At.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carlos J. Costa
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Cientista da Computação - Esp. Gestão em Telecom
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> At.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos J. Costa
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Cientista da Computação - Esp. Gestão em Telecom
>>>>
>>>> -- 
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