It's been a while since I've been around but this seems to be an important discussion that I'd like to weigh in on.
Massimo is right. Most of Armin's critiques are thought-out design decisions. The perceived problems from just looking at the code don't play out in reality due to being either a non-issue handled by some other mechanism. The issue of open file-handles is partly an issue and partly Armin showing his ignorance of WSGI. Any iterator passed back to a WSGI server will be "closed" if it has a close methods and will be appropriately deleted. For all the other instances, yes, we should close them. I'm not going to weigh in on the ORM since I currently do not use it (however, this might change with the new ORM coming out). Fact is, I've used web2py for production purposes for more than a year now and the only issues I've had with my setup were either my own code or issues with python's broken socket library (which the included wsgiserver uses). As for the future of Python...I see cPython becoming what the vanilla Linux kernel is today. That is to say, it's sort of the base-line, but no distribution uses just the vanilla kernel, but they all add their own patches and customizations. Pypy will likely bypass both cPython and Jython in performance and flexibility within the next 2 years and popularity in the following 5. Python developers will refer to cPython more than end-users will actually use it. Google will keep using it since they're investing in Unladen-Swallow, but independent projects will gear more towards Pypy compatibility due to it's platform flexibility, speed and scalability. That being said, Python 3.x will not be adopted as quickly as some would hope. Py3 support is barely on the radar for Pypy and Jython. Frankly, even at Python3.1 it's still horribly broken for web- development. The Cherrypy and Werkzeug devs are building their own versions of the cgi library. Eventually, web2py will need to have some implementation on Python3, but I don't see that as needed for at least 2 more years. Python2 is still going very strong. It will be more than 2 years before Google migrates. They will likely be the driving force behind moving beyond Py2. Just my 2c -tim --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
