The bottom line is that you cannot inner-join a table, then left-join
that table to another.
In the original query you are left joining audiofile to concert while
concert is inner joined to venue.

web2py has a problem: when you perform an outer join, and then a left
join, it does not let you specify which is the table (from the inner
join) to left join to.

Reading this again and again I realized I close this ticket too soon.
The problem is more complex than I originally understood but better
scoped. Since we cannot change the web2py syntax we need to figure out
which table to left join to from the on(query) expression. I now think
this is easier to fix than I thought.

I will reopen the ticket.

Richard. thanks for insisting on this issue.

Massimo



On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah I read howesc's diagnosis of the problem (and filed a bug report
> with that explanation), but howesc was not able to solve the problem
> until you posted a solution.
> You said his query was fundamentally wrong. So I was wondering how to
> do multiple joins properly in web2py, because I am also facing the
> same problem.
>
> Richard
>
> On Aug 24, 10:01 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > howesc explained it in his posts: "that mixing the join syntax has
> > operator
> > precedence issues, and that Postgres follows the standard while other
> > databases let you get away with the "incorrect" 
> > syntax:http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-09/msg01046.php";
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Aug 23, 6:47 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > hi Massimo,
>
> > > you mentioned that the initial query was invalid (http://
> > > code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/detail?id=52).
> > > Could you clarify what was invalid and the proper way to do multiple
> > > joins?
>
> > > Richard
>
> > > On Aug 17, 4:37 am, howesc <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for the tip!  A little tweaking to your suggestion makes it
> > > > work:
>
> > > > c=db.concert
> > > > cp=db.concert_purchases
> > > > a=db.artist
> > > > v=db.venue
> > > > af=db.audiofile
> > > > test = db(cp.auth_user==3)(c.id==cp.concert)(cp.expires>'2009-08-08
> > > > 09:46:23').
> > > >   select(c.name, c.id, cp.date, a.name, v.name, c.date,
> > > >          af.file,left=(c.on((c.venue==v.id) & (v.name != None)),
> > > >                        cp.on((cp.concert==c.id) & (cp.concert !=
> > > > None)),
> > > >                        a.on((a.id==c.artist) & (a.name != None)),
> > > >                        af.on(af.concert==c.id)), orderby=~cp.date)
>
> > > > I put in where clause restrictions to make some of the left joins not
> > > > really left joins, I probably don't need to do that for this
> > > > particular query.
>
> > > > thanks again for the suggestion to help me re-craft the query!
>
> > > > christian
>
> > > > On Aug 14, 12:38 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > Are you sure this does not work?
>
> > > > > c=db.concert
> > > > > cp=db.concert_purchases
> > > > > a=db.artist
> > > > > db(cp.auth_user==3)(c.id==cp.concert)(cp.expires>'2009-08-08
> > > > > 09:46:23').select(c.name, c.id, cp.date, a.name, v.name, c.date,
> > > > > af.file,left=(c.on(c.value==v.id),cp.on(cp.concert==c.id),a.on
> > > > > (a.id==c.artist)), orderby=~cp.date)
>
> > > > > Massimo
>
> > > > > On Aug 12, 9:09 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > hi Christian,
> > > > > > I also just got this error message when testing a migration from
> > > > > > sqlite to postgres. Thanks for the diagnosis of the problem.
> > > > > > Have you found a work around yet using the DAL?
> > > > > > Richard
>
> > > > > > On Aug 10, 4:56 pm, howesc <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > This is in Postgres.
>
> > > > > > > I did a little digging, and apparently mixing the JOIN syntax is a
> > > > > > > problem.  So if i re-write thequeryin this fashion it works:
>
> > > > > > > SELECT c.name, c.id, cp.date, a.name, v.name, c.date, af.file
> > > > > > > FROM venue v
> > > > > > > JOIN concert c ON c.venue=v.id
> > > > > > > JOIN concert_purchases cp ON cp.concert=c.id
> > > > > > > JOIN artist a ON a.id=c.artist
> > > > > > > LEFT JOIN audiofile af ON af.concert=c.id
> > > > > > > WHERE cp.auth_user=3
> > > > > > >   AND c.id=cp.concert
> > > > > > >   AND cp.expires>'2009-08-08 09:46:23'
> > > > > > > ORDER BY cp.date DESC;
>
> > > > > > > some others have suggested that mixing the join syntax has 
> > > > > > > operator
> > > > > > > precedence issues, and that Postgres follows the standard while 
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > databases let you get away with the "incorrect" 
> > > > > > > syntax:http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-09/msg01046.phphttp......
>
> > > > > > > based on their analysis a standard compliant SQL parser will 
> > > > > > > interpret
> > > > > > > the web2py generatedquerylike this:
> > > > > > >  SELECT concert.name, concert.id, concert_purchases.date, 
> > > > > > > artist.name,
> > > > > > >  venue.name, concert.date, audiofile.file FROM venue, concert,
> > > > > > >  concert_purchases, (artist LEFT JOIN audiofile ON
> > > > > > >  audiofile.concert=concert.id) WHERE 
> > > > > > > ((((concert_purchases.auth_user=3
> > > > > > >  AND concert.id=concert_purchases.concert) AND
> > > > > > >  concert_purchases.expires>'2009-08-08 09:46:23') AND
> > > > > > >  artist.id=concert.artist) AND venue.id=concert.venue) ORDER BY
> > > > > > >  concert_purchases.date DESC;
>
> > > > > > > note the added parens around the last item in the from clause and 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > LEFT JOIN item - hence concert is not visible.  if i re-write it
> > > > > > > knowing the operator precedence like this:
>
> > > > > > > SELECT concert.name, concert.id, concert_purchases.date, 
> > > > > > > artist.name,
> > > > > > > venue.name, concert.date, audiofile.file
> > > > > > > FROM venue, artist,
> > > > > > > concert_purchases, concert LEFT JOIN audiofile ON
> > > > > > > audiofile.concert=concert.id WHERE 
> > > > > > > ((((concert_purchases.auth_user=3
> > > > > > > AND concert.id=concert_purchases.concert) AND
> > > > > > > concert_purchases.expires>'2009-08-08 09:46:23') AND
> > > > > > > artist.id=concert.artist) AND venue.id=concert.venue) ORDER BY
> > > > > > > concert_purchases.date DESC;
>
> > > > > > > it also works...which explains to me why some of my left joins 
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > and some don't - if i'm lucky and the lasttablein the from clause 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > what i am left joining on it works.
>
> > > > > > > that being said, it looks like i'm the only one with that problem 
> > > > > > > so i
> > > > > > > don't expect you to try and fix that right away.
>
> > > > > > > thanks,
>
> > > > > > > Christian
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 8, 4:17 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Is this sqlite? The generated SQL looks right to me. Do you see
> > > > > > > > anything wrong with it?
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 8, 11:48 am, howesc <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Massimo,
>
> > > > > > > > > I downloaded the latest released version today: Version 
> > > > > > > > > 1.65.11
> > > > > > > > > (2009-08-04 16:42:46), and it still fails.  here is the 
> > > > > > > > > generated SQL:
>
> > > > > > > > > SELECT concert.name, concert.id, concert_purchases.date, 
> > > > > > > > > artist.name,
> > > > > > > > > venue.name, concert.date, audiofile.file FROM venue, concert,
> > > > > > > > > concert_purchases, artist LEFT JOIN audiofile ON
> > > > > > > > > audiofile.concert=concert.id WHERE 
> > > > > > > > > ((((concert_purchases.auth_user=3
> > > > > > > > > AND concert.id=concert_purchases.concert) AND
> > > > > > > > > concert_purchases.expires>'2009-08-08 09:46:23') AND
> > > > > > > > > artist.id=concert.artist) AND venue.id=concert.venue) ORDER BY
> > > > > > > > > concert_purchases.date DESC;
>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > > > > Christian
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 11:58 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Please try a new version of web2py (I remember addressing a 
> > > > > > > > > > bug about
> > > > > > > > > > this in the past). if you still have a problem, try print 
> > > > > > > > > > the _select
> > > > > > > > > > and let us see the generate sql. This should definitively 
> > > > > > > > > > be possible.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Massimo
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, howesc <how...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm writing several queries with multiple tables, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > left joins, and
> > > > > > > > > > > the generated SQL is not working with postgres:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > ProgrammingError: invalid reference to 
> > > > > > > > > > > FROM-clauseentryfortable
> > > > > > > > > > > "concert"
> > > > > > > > > > > LINE 1: ..., artist LEFT JOIN audiofile ON
> > > > > > > > > > > audiofile.concert=concert.id...
> > > > > > > > > > >                                                           
> > > > > > > > > > >    ^
> > > > > > > > > > > HINT:  Thereis anentryfortable"concert",butitcannotbe
> > > > > > > > > > >referencedfrom thispartof thequery.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > myqueryis:
> > > > > > > > > > >    query= db((db.concert_purchases.auth_user == 
> > > > > > > > > > > auth.user.id) &
> > > > > > > > > > >                (db.concert.id == 
> > > > > > > > > > > db.concert_purchases.concert) &
> > > > > > > > > > >                (db.concert_purchases.expires > now) &
> > > > > > > > > > >                (db.artist.id == db.concert.artist) &
> > > > > > > > > > >                (db.venue.id == db.concert.venue))
> > > > > > > > > > >     rows =query.select(db.concert.name, db.concert.id,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         db.concert_purchases.date,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         db.artist.name,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         db.venue.name,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         db.concert.date,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         db.audiofile.file,
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > > left=db.audiofile.on(db.audiofile.concert ==
> > > > > > > > > > > db.concert.id),
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > > orderby=~db.concert_purchases.date)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I have web2py Version 1.63.5 (2009-06-03 23:35:00)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > so, istherea way i can write thequeryto make the left 
> > > > > > > > > > > join work,
> > > > > > > > > > > or should i just do multiple queries?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > thanks for the help,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > christian
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