Then perhaps the comparison should be made not what you get on the basic
plan, but what you get for the price.

You get a whole lot more for your money with dreamhost than with webfaction.

Fair use is probably going to be no more than users/ram plus a little extra
(since not everybody needs that much ram)

My server has 4G ram, and approx 20 users (they had a bug in the update the
other day that allowed you to view number of users in top)

so 4000/20 = 200RAM a person, they probably won't bother you unless your
using more than that ammount.

That being said, i'm sure some of their servers have more or less.

I am on a beta server, so that is not a fair comparison.

Of course, plone is banned on dreamhost, because of its resources, but we're
talking about web2py on WSGI, not plone :)

SO again, it all comes back to what your planning to do. If you want
something that gives you the most for your money, and your just starting
out, I think dreamhost is excellent. HOWEVER if you need to run plone, just
skip the shared hosting completely and go with a VPS (I had a cheap one
about a year ago that cost me only $15/mo for 512ram).

I know alot of people that use web2py have webfaction and love it, I can't
speak for webfaction since I have never used it, however I do use dreamhost
for a low cost personal playground that I don't have to worrya bout
limitations, and at work we use mediatemple.net. If I ever created a website
that needed more than dreamhost could provide on their shared hosting, that
would be the time to get an m(t) account.

-Thadeus




On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> do they define what "fair use" is?
> Webfaction only gives you 80MB on the cheapest plan, which is about
> what Plone requires (damn Zope is heavy!).
>
>
> On Sep 29, 11:57 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> > Other hosts, such as webfaction, and mediatemple.net are good, but
> because
> of the price, I wouldn't go with them until you know for sure thats
> what
> your app needs.
>
> what did you mean "because of the price"? - Webfaction is cheaper than
> Dreamhost.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Sep 29, 11:57 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> > Unlimited memory usage, however they will kill your process if you are
> using
> > more than your fair share for an extended period of time.
> >
> > As for the price, my referall code waives the setup fee.
> >
> > -Thadeus
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dreamhost is $10.95/month if you pay monthly (+ $49.95 setup fee), so
> > > you should probably use that figure when comparing to other companies
> > > monthly rates...
> >
> > > My main problem is memory use (rather than bandwidth or disk space) -
> > > do you know how much memory you can use on that plan?
> >
> > > Richard
> >
> > > On Sep 29, 11:01 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> > > > Webfaction is 9.50/month and you only get 10GB disk and 600GB
> transfer.
> >
> > > > Dreamhost is 8.95/month and you get unlimited web disk and ulimited
> > > > transfer. Web disk means, you get unlimited as long as its being used
> for
> > > a
> > > > website, you can't use the space for your own personal backup!
> >
> > > > If you want your own personal backup, dreamhost actually gives you a
> FREE
> > > 50
> > > > gb backup account, on a subdomain, that can only be used for SFTP.
> And
> > > you
> > > > can put whatever you want on there, over 50GB is only 5 cents a gb
> > > > afterwords.
> >
> > > > Honestly though, for shared hosting, dreamhost is your best bet. But
> if
> > > you
> > > > needed more than shared hosting, go with something like
> mediatemple.net.
> >
> > > > -Thadeus
> >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Richard <richar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Other hosts, such as webfaction, and mediatemple.net are good,
> but
> > > > > because of the price, I wouldn't go with them until you know for
> sure
> > > thats
> > > > > what your app needs.
> >
> > > > > are you sure? Dreamhost is $8.95/month, and Webfaction is
> $8.50/month
> > > > > on a year plan or $5.50/month for long term.
> >
> > > > > On Sep 29, 7:58 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> > > > > > If you don't currently have your own hosting, I would highly
> > > recommend
> > > > > > Dreamhost if your are just starting out with hosting.
> >
> > > > > > Other hosts, such as webfaction, and mediatemple.net are good,
> but
> > > > > because
> > > > > > of the price, I wouldn't go with them until you know for sure
> thats
> > > what
> > > > > > your app needs.
> >
> > > > > > Dreamhost is cheap, and their quality of service is awesome, I
> have
> > > never
> > > > > > had my site go down, it is rock solid, and their support techs
> will
> > > email
> > > > > me
> > > > > > back even at like 4AM in the morning! That and having ssh,
> ulimited
> > > > > > subdomains, being able to install anything... Well its "almost"
> like
> > > > > having
> > > > > > a VPS for the cost of shared hosting :)
> >
> > > > > > Plus dreamhost now supports WSGI, so using web2py is fast (WSGI
> is
> > > much
> > > > > > faster than fcgi since WSGI uses mod_passenger to hook into
> apache)
> >
> > > > > > If your interested in going with dreamhost, I don't mind helping
> you
> > > get
> > > > > > started getting web2py set up, and if you use my referral code :P
> >
> > > > > > -Thadeus
> >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris S <
> sanders.ch...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Would this be the same for FastCGI?  Simply rename and add a
> > > > > > > handler?
> > > > > > > I've been trying GAE and would really like to try out a shared
> host
> > > > > > > with FastCGI instead.  The GAE's lack of 'belongs in' type
> command
> > > is
> > > > > > > killing me.
> >
> > > > > > > On Sep 28, 4:14 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Quite easily actually, some took me about 5 seconds on
> google.
> >
> > > > > > > >http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html#cgi
> >
> > > > > > > > Bascially, you either rename cgihandler.py with a .cgi
> extension,
> > > > > and/or
> > > > > > > > simlink it to a .cgi file.
> >
> > > > > > > > Hope that helps, I would suggest maybe fastcgi if you have
> it?
> >
> > > > > > > > I currently use the shared hosting on dreamhost, and use
> their
> > > WSGI
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > web2py instance, runs great!
> >
> > > > > > > > -Thadeus
> >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:07 PM, andreas <
> ord...@nocompromise.ws
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > h directory should the domain point?
> > > > > > > > > Do I have to remove or modify the cgihandler.py file?
> > > > > > > > > Do I have to set up a .htaccess file and what to write insi
> >
>

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