On Feb 8, 11:43 am, AchipA <attila.cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) ok
> 2) this would be the cron.master file. Sadly, it must be a file as
> otherwise multiprocess setups (like wsgi) would trip over each other.

ok. but there should be a function to check its status.
to make sure... what I mean is a way to check not if it is running
"right now" but if a) it was set to run; and b) it failed somehow.

> 3) I'm thinking of deprecating posttasks in favor of being able to
> daisy-chain controllers. So you would not have posttasks, but you
> could specify a controller that would be called automatically after
> the current controller is finished. That would be a lot cleaner
> but would keep the functionality.

Look into tools.py @completion. Not quite what you want but perhaps
you can keep the syntax.

> On Feb 8, 4:25 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > I agree that Popen is a better solution and I would not change
> > anything in cron.py.
>
> > I would only like:
> > 1) move crontype into gluon.settings and use the variable to determine
> > the type of cron. Currently this is a global variable almost useless
> > to determine which type of cron is on.
> > 2) add a variable that tells if cron is being executed
> > 3) remove posttasks since it is misleading (they are executed after
> > ever action for every app). May not be thread safe.
>
> > On Feb 8, 7:40 am, AchipA <attila.cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Fiddling with this now, but have a few concerns, so I'd like Massimo
> > > to chime is as the exec expert. The main reason for going POpen is to
> > > have a clean, thread safe environment, and with exec I'm not sure we
> > > won't hit race conditions or deadlock possibilities, especially if we
> > > touch on models. Some help how to exec stuff with the proper
> > > environment would be welcome :)
>
> > > Another thing to note is that when execing, we no longer have control
> > > over what we execute - i.e. while we can kill/clean zombie POpened
> > > processes, if we get stuck in just another thread (=with exec) it's
> > > stuck there until the whole web2py/webserver is restarted.
>
> > > On Jan 31, 7:27 am, John Heenan <johnmhee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I have not get my point across.
>
> > > > By 'Python exec' I mean using the 'exec' internal Python command. I
> > > > don't mean 'Python exec' as a shorthand for 'execute a new Unix,
> > > > Windows or Mac OS process under the ownership of the cron code written
> > > > in Python'.
>
> > > > I have just examined the most recent trunk version of cron.py 
> > > > inhttp://code.google.com/p/web2py/source/browse/gluon/contrib/cron.py
>
> > > > For .py files the Popen command is still executed using the
> > > > cronlauncher class that uses Popen
>
> > > > For those of us trying ot keep RAM usage down, who don't want to use a
> > > > regular crontab and who only want to run Python files, using Popen is
> > > > not necessasry.
>
> > > > My point is can we have an option to:
>
> > > > 1) Just do an Python exec on an opened file contents (with ot without
> > > > the models envrionment), instead of doing a Popen
> > > > 2) Have an option to do an Python exec on a string, such as on "import
> > > > a; a.mycronaction()"
>
> > > > Thanks
>
> > > > John Heenan
>
> > > > On Jan 31, 2:17 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > Unless we misunderstand we have that already. The file just needs to
> > > > > end in .py as in
>
> > > > > * * * * * root myscript.py
>
> > > > > You can also call actions
>
> > > > > * * * * * root *myscript.py
>
> > > > > so that models are imported.
>
> > > > > On Jan 30, 8:36 pm, John Heenan <johnmhee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi AchipA
>
> > > > > > Another feature request, if the cron file is a python file, how 
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > a cron option to open the file and do an exec on the file contents?
>
> > > > > > Thanks
>
> > > > > > John Heenan
>
> > > > > > On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, John Heenan <johnmhee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi AchipA
>
> > > > > > > Your cron is nice work and neatly deals with the messy side of
> > > > > > > launching an independent OS process and waiting for it to finish.
>
> > > > > > > For those of us who do not wish to launch an independent process 
> > > > > > > (to
> > > > > > > keep down memory use) and are happy to stick with Python for cron
> > > > > > > jobs, following is a request to add in the following feature to 
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > cron fpr web2py.
>
> > > > > > > Provide a mechanism to just perform a Python exec on a string
> > > > > > > statment.
>
> > > > > > > For example a string statement might be
> > > > > > > "import a; a.mycronaction()"
>
> > > > > > > Thanks
>
> > > > > > > John Heenan
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 31, 6:52 am, AchipA <attila.cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Just to chime in, I'm still alive and preparing an update to 
> > > > > > > > cron as
> > > > > > > > quite a few things changed since I last touched it. As for the
> > > > > > > > questions - all cron modes support the * and ** syntax, and 
> > > > > > > > yes, cron
> > > > > > > > files can be modified on the fly.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 4:00 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I did not write cron personally and I am still trying to 
> > > > > > > > > understand
> > > > > > > > > some of it, Attila did.
> > > > > > > > > I am in the looking at cron these days to treamline it a bit 
> > > > > > > > > and I am
> > > > > > > > > trying to understand better as it works.
>
> > > > > > > > > Since windows does not have cron, you should use web2py 
> > > > > > > > > hardcron. It
> > > > > > > > > should work on windows 7 but I have not tried it. The "root" 
> > > > > > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > > username that should run the cron task. It is only used by 
> > > > > > > > > extcron and
> > > > > > > > > ignored otherwise (but must be there, for compatibility of 
> > > > > > > > > syntax).
>
> > > > > > > > > I am not sure if tasks staring with * or ** run under extcron 
> > > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > > suggest not using pycron. Given hardcron you do not need 
> > > > > > > > > pycron
> > > > > > > > > anyway.
>
> > > > > > > > > Mind that this is in the process of being refactored a bit. 
> > > > > > > > > Perhaps
> > > > > > > > > you can help with testing and debugging so you can be sure it 
> > > > > > > > > works as
> > > > > > > > > you need it.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 4:27 am, Oguz Yarimtepe <oguzyarimt...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > > > > I was trying to use the cron property of web2py at my 
> > > > > > > > > > project. I am
> > > > > > > > > > using web2py under windows 7. I had installed wamp server 
> > > > > > > > > > with mod_wsgi.
> > > > > > > > > > According to the documentation it is suggested to use the 
> > > > > > > > > > external cron.
> > > > > > > > > > I tried to test the soft cron issue so i added the below 
> > > > > > > > > > line to my
> > > > > > > > > > application crontab
>
> > > > > > > > > > #crontab
> > > > > > > > > > */2        *        *        *        *        root 
> > > > > > > > > > *decrease/
>
> > > > > > > > > > and at the controllers directory the decrease file is as is
>
> > > > > > > > > > # coding: utf8
>
> > > > > > > > > > def index():
>
> > > > > > > > > >      f=file("C:\\Users\\oguz\\hede.txt", "w+")
> > > > > > > > > >      f.write("ok")
> > > > > > > > > >      f.close()
>
> > > > > > > > > >      return dict()
>
> > > > > > > > > > So when the application is loaded shouldn't i see the txt 
> > > > > > > > > > is created at
> > > > > > > > > > every 2 minutes?
>
> > > > > > > > > > What is the usage of the root keyword at the crontab file? 
> > > > > > > > > > For windows
> > > > > > > > > > application what should it be?
>
> > > > > > > > > > And if i want to use the external cron method, it says i 
> > > > > > > > > > should add a
> > > > > > > > > > line to system cron file. This doesn't sound me so 
> > > > > > > > > > effective at my
> > > > > > > > > > application so i will be prefering to use something like 
> > > > > > > > > > pycron. Anybody
> > > > > > > > > > tested these things at windows 7?
>
>

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