I don't think this is a problem.

If I wanted to check the data of db, I would use a sqlite viewer (or a
mysql viewer). 99% of cases I just want to
check a variable, sessions or vars/args. I don't want to have a full
blown terminal to experiment.
Just a screen where I can poke around, see what is the problem,
correct it on my code and refresh the page.
If something is wrong with my data, I always find it easier/faster to
check them with a viewer.

On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> Problem is that database is closed when the page returns (and rolled
> back) so any attempt to use db will result in "database closed". This
> is the hard part.
>
> On Mar 9, 10:33 am, Jon Romero <darks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 9, 6:28 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > Let me think about this.
> > > We could:
> > > 1) save the response._environment in ram
> > > 2) if logged in user is admin allow the user to open a web2py shell in
> > > the above environment.
>
> > Yes!
>
> > > the main problem is what do we do with database transactions? when do
> > > we close them?
>
> > Whatever happened before the "crush", should be stored (db.commit()).
> > After that, it's like the normal web2py shell (user has to commit by
> > himself).
>
> > > Massimo
>
> > > On Mar 9, 10:17 am, Jon Romero <darks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I've seen that Pylons has an AWESOME debugger.
> > > > Every time an error occurs, you have an AJAX console where you can
> > > > inspect elements!
>
> > > > This is waaaaaaay more useful than tickets (at least on development)
> > > > where you click a ticket, go to the new page, read the error, do a
> > > > print in your code so you can inspect the element, close the ticket
> > > > page and refresh to get a new ticket, go to the error page, watch the
> > > > error etc etc ...
>
> > > > How difficult is to add something like this in to web2py?

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