Sorry. Thadeus. You are right. Do as you feel appropriate since this your survey. I trust people will not be biased since 1) I have been wrong before 2) this is an anonymous survey.
Massimo P.S. time to tune on http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream/2&hpt=T1 On Mar 21, 9:12 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > Ok, to add (or remove) questions I "should" invalidate all the current > results (4) and those "should" retake the survey. Also pre-exposure to > this thread can skew the results as there are those who will always > "follow" what others say on this thread just because of the merit this > person has in the community. > > -Thadeus > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:07 PM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > I agree with Mr. Freeze but changing it now may constitute a breaking > > a backward compatibility. > > After reading the survey it has a lot of questions and it may > > confusing to a lot of users. > > Bottom line: > > > zero='' is what we have now (vote for this if you do not want changes > > in your apps) > > zero=None is the change in behavior that Thadeus is proposing. It will > > change the way dropbox behave. It will eliminate the default empty > > option in the stopbox (vote this if you want the first alphabetical > > value to be selected by default). > > > Clarifications: the last question asks whether the current solution > > (since 1.5x.x I think) was a breaking of backward compatibily, not > > whether a change now should be a braking of backward compatibility. > > @Thadeus, if you ask one question, you should ask the other too. > > > Since there are quite a lot of questions I have to retreat what I > > said. I first want to read the answers and then decide what to do. I > > cannot automatically follow what majority wants since it is possible > > that people will make that case that change of behavior now will > > constitute breaking of backward compatibility. > > > Massimo > > > On Mar 21, 8:49 pm, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote: > >> Done. I personally prefer zero='' as a default. I think the selection > >> should be made explicitly by the user unless an actual default value > >> for the field is set. This doesn't break backwards compatibility IMO > >> because web2py wasn't controlling it before, the browser was. > > >> On Mar 21, 8:26 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > > >> > That is not a good point. That is a interface and usability question, > >> > also it is a clientell question of who will be using the app. > > >> > I am tired of arguing this matter. As far as I see it, we broke > >> > backwards compatibility, forcing me to update all of my apps. > > >> > I respectfully ask the community to please take the following > >> > anonymous survey on this topic. I will support the outcome of the > >> > results for this survey as the community decision. > > >> > I will not take part of this survey since I created it. > > >> >https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dE5pd01zNndEMk4zREpF... > > >> > -Thadeus > > >> > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:55 PM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Not everybody agreed. Somebody (do not remember who) made a good point > >> > > that having zero=None will case people to fill forms with with wrong > >> > > values (always the first alphabetical value). > > >> > > On Mar 21, 7:21 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > >> > >> Massimo, I think in the post everyone agreed to make zero=None the > >> > >> default, and yet after at least 13 of us said to make this the > >> > >> default, nothing happened. The original design was (is) a good idea, > >> > >> but making that a default was a bad idea. Nobody had any input at the > >> > >> moment, but after playing around with it, it sucks being the default. > > >> > >> -Thadeus > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:00 PM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > There was a long discussion about this. Different people disagreed > >> > >> > on > >> > >> > how this should behave. > > >> > >> > You can revert to the previous behavior with > > >> > >> > IS_IN_SET(...,zero=None) > >> > >> > IS_IN_DB(...,zero=None) > > >> > >> > Or customize the empty value > > >> > >> > zero="Please choose one" > > >> > >> > Massimo > > >> > >> > On Mar 21, 12:42 pm, annet <annet.verm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> Today, I upgraded my web2py installation to version 1.76.5. In this > >> > >> >> web2py version the drop boxes display an empty key value pair > >> > >> >> first, > >> > >> >> and then the key value pairs from the tables I based them on. What > >> > >> >> causes this change in behaviour? 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