Perhaps try the Software Conservance again?  I see that they recently
accepted PyPy and Git

On Dec 28, 9:28 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> A foundation is a corporation and, believe it or not, in US a
> corporation is a person:
>
>  http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2010/01/the...
>
> The Django foundation was created two years ago (and Django is 4-5
> years older than web2py). Do you have any evidence that it has
> improved its popularity:
>
>  http://www.google.com/trends?q=django?
>
> Python has a foundation and it looks to me it is always broke. I just
> spoke with a recruiter that was looking for Python programmers for a
> big US bank and I complained that his client relied on a product
> (Python) and did not make any donation to support it. The python
> developers are not supported by the foundation, as far as I know.
>
> A foundation has costs higher than a corporation and I do not get
> enough donation to cover those costs. A corporation
> (experts4solutions) is cheaper (it still costs at least $500/year of
> my own money). Moreover a foundation implies that design decision are
> taken by committee and I do not believe in that.
>
> I consult with core developers and users on important matters but I
> think there has to be one individual who ultimately takes decisions
> about the direction of the project.
>
> We have explored the possibility of joining the free software
> conservatory but we got no feedback.
>
> Rails is owned by a corporation (37signals) which is owned by one
> individual. It seems to be the model works well for them. In my case I
> decided not to pass copyright and trademark to experts4solutions
> because I thought some would have criticized it.
>
> I am not the only committer to the main web2py branch. Jonathan L. is
> also a committer and will use his power in case I am incapacitated.
> Yet, that should not be a crowded space in order to avoid internal
> conflicts.
>
> I will write a will that explains what happens to the web2py trademark
> and copyright in case I die.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Dec 28, 2:12 am, Graham Dumpleton <graham.dumple...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:37:30 PM UTC+11, mdipierro wrote:
>
> > > Not sure what a single person framework means. This framework counts
> > > almost 100 contributors and at least 50 people very skilled here. If I
> > > get hit by a track any of them can take over by forking my branch as
> > > allowed by the license.
>
> > That last line actually supports the idea that a piece of software is owned
> > and controlled by a single person. If a piece of software was owned by a
> > group, be it a corporation or a foundation, the death of the core developer
> > would make no difference as it would continue to be developed within the
> > structure of that corporation or foundation and copyright still held by the
> > continuing entity.
>
> > In your case, if you get hit by a bus driven by a disgruntled Python
> > developer, then no one else can simply take over the software as it is now,
> > using any existing legal structure etc. Instead it would as you say need to
> > be forked and in being forked legally may even need to change names as a
> > result if you have sole rights over the original name.
>
> > So, your own words support the contention expressed by some that it is
> > 'single person framework' as far as ownership and control is concerned, an
> > issue which is distinct from whether or not you have other contributors.
>
> > Graham
>
> > > The purpose of the foundation is to collect money for development and
> > > advertising. Other organization like Rails have chose to create a
> > > company instead of a foundation.
>
> > > We have created a company (experts4solutions.com) whose purpose is to
> > > promote skilled web2py professionals (and you can joins), foster
> > > web2py projects, sell consulting and long term support contracts.
>
> > > This was advertised here a few months ago. Some users have joined.
>
> > > Massimo
>
> > > On Dec 27, 9:46 pm, Pepe Araya <pepe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > some news about this topic?
>
> > > > I think 2 things are going in favor of creating a foundation or
> > > [whatever]:
> > > > 1. the community has grown a lot.
> > > > 2. in all the reviews I read about web2py, always, always, ALWAYS!!! say
> > > it
> > > > is a single-person framework and that takes away the future security of
> > > > their development.
>
> > > > kind regards
>
> > > > Pepe

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