On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Eric Vicenti wrote:

> I would prefer TLS as well, but for some reason GoDaddy Email doesn't
> support it. For all technical purposes, though, it shouldn't matter.

That works for me, as long as there's a reason for it being there.

> 
> On Jul 23, 1:14 pm, David Ford <da...@blue-labs.org> wrote:
>> STARTTLS is the negotiated protocol of SSL.  it's a method of establishing 
>> the connection using plain text, becoming aware that the server supports an 
>> encrypted layer and then initiating an SSL session.  plain SSL is the 
>> "dumb", or blind, approach to smtps.  failure to negotiate SSL via protocol 
>> means a possibly lengthy session timeout with no clear explanation why the 
>> session failed.
>> 
>> why to use SSL rather than TLS?  generally any server that supports plain 
>> SSL should also support TLS.  there are corner cases.  while rare, it's nice 
>> to be able to say yep, we got that covered too.
>> 
>> -david
>> 
>> On 07/23/11 16:02, Eric Vicenti wrote:
>> 
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>>> The SMTP protocol can be encrypted at a low level with either TLS or
>>> SSL. It depends on the SMTP server. Most hosts will offer one or both,
>>> and they should tell you, as well as the corresponding port (typically
>>> 465 or 587 for secured connections). If you are configured with TLS or
>>> no security when you should be using SSL, web2py requests will take a
>>> few minutes and eventually the server will report a message send
>>> failure.
>> 
>>> Further reading:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
>> 
>>> -Eric
>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 7:59 am, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Eric Vicenti wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I was having difficulties sending from web2py, when I realized there
>>>>> is no SSL encryption support. Since this is already built into
>>>>> smtplib, it was a simple addition. I should mention this wont work on
>>>>> GAE, and I have not comprehensively tested it.
>>>> Under what circumstances would you use ssl vs tis?

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