Maybe I can answer your question by describing how I use Web2py. I begin with models. The DAL has so far provided all the functionality I need. That said, I also will need to implement a union query in the future and I don't think the DAL supports it. However, on this forum there was recently a thread about how to process the rows that came back from processing a raw SQL query, so no problems there.
As far as controllers go, I begin by using crud, SQLFORM.grid and SQLFORM.smartgrid. Sometimes these are all I need, especially if the controllers address a single table only or just have one-to-may relationships. If I need more flexibility, such as processing on validation or after and insert or update. In that case I use SQLFORM or SQLFORM.factory. You can even hand build your pages using the view helpers. Web2py generates css-friendly pages, so you can style as much as you like. On Monday, July 9, 2012 4:46:24 AM UTC-4, murtaza52 wrote: > > Massimo, > > Appreciate your comments. > > As mentioned by you, web2py has packaged all the functionality needed by > a web app in a single api, and I am finding this very interesting. This > certainly allows one to create a web app pretty fast. > > The only remaining question is that how easy is it to pull apart things > and modify them as needed. As I understand web2py will certainly speed up > my development. However when I need flexibility will I still be easily able > to change defaults and tweak things ? ( something that loosely couple > frameworks provide over full stack frameworks) > > Thanks, > Murtaza > > On Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:26:34 AM UTC+5:30, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >> >> As pointed out what I said is that I would pick ROR of "most" python >> frameworks. >> >> In general I prefer to program in Python rather then Ruby. Indentation >> makes the code more readable and there are more libraries. Ruby is used in >> Rails but not much else. Python is used for all kind of things (think about >> numpy, blender, pyglet, etc.). >> >> Yet Ruby is better designed than most Python framework because if favors >> convention over configuration. Most Python frameworks instead follow the >> Python motto "explicit is better the implicit" and the authors despise the >> concept of "default behaviour" which they refer to as "magic". This means >> that even very simple simple such as serving a static file require a fair >> amount of programing. Moreover, as a corollary, most frameworks come in >> pieces. Ever piece has a name and its own marketing people. This exposes >> the visibility of the component but it means you have to separately find >> and install the components you need, learn their api and make sure they are >> compatible with your own version of the code. >> >> In web2py we tried to copied the RoR approach (everything has a >> configuration) and we try to package and maintain as many components as >> possible into the same code base (API for authentication, scheduler, cron, >> PDF printing, SOAP services, WIKI markup, syntax highlighting, etc.). >> Moreover we do not rely on third party modules (only on Python standard >> libraries). 99% of what you may want to can be done with basic web2py >> without needing external packages. This means the apps are very portable >> between one installation and another. >> >> The main difference between web2py and other frameworks in practice is >> not soo much in the its API (which more or less are the same for all >> frameworks) but for what web2py does for you on the management site: no >> packages to install, manage through the web interface, no shell programming >> unless you want to, automatic migrations. >> >> Massimo >> >> >> >> On Friday, 6 July 2012 00:58:36 UTC-5, murtaza52 wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am considering three frameworks for developing our commercial >>> applications- >>> >>> 1) web2py (choice #1) >>> 2) ROR >>> 3) Play framework >>> >>> While my research I was intrigued by Massimo's post where he says that >>> he would pick ROR over any of the current python frameworks. My question is >>> how does web2py itself compare to ROR ? What are the views of those >>> experienced with both the ecosystems ? >>> >>> http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/209343 >>> >>> I have expereince with none so will rely on your answers :) The purpose >>> of the question is not to start a flame war, but to understand why should >>> web2py be chose over other frameworks which have much more traction today? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Murtaza >>> >>>
