hot install is always there and apps can come with their own app-level routes. The only issue is that a global route can mess up access to apps if not done properly.
On Thursday, 2 August 2012 10:50:35 UTC-5, viniciusban wrote: > > Massimo, about hot install applications, it's true just if you use > default routes, right? > > Or there's some way to do that using custom routes? > > -- > Vinicius Assef > > > > On 08/01/2012 02:23 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > I really have nothing to add but some history. > > > > I was a Django programmer (although never a Django contributor) and I > > have developed web sites for the United Nations in Django. I have taught > > Django here at DePaul University. I started web2py as a teaching because > > I found the learning curve with Django was too steep. Moreover when > > web2py was created Django was not the same as today. It did not have the > > template escaping on by default (web2py did), it had a bug in CSRF > > protection (web2py's one always worked), did not have migration (still > > does not but now there is third party solution), did not support > > multiple database connections (there was as Django fork but it took long > > time to be merged), did not support multiple projects (web2py always > > did), did not support left joins and aggregates (web2py always did). > > Django always supported less database engine than web2py (and some not > > very well, for example web2py generates better SQL code for pagination > > in Oracle). Django always had and still has a more polised and > > customizable admin (equivalent to web2py's appadmin) and a better > > interface for many-to-many relations. > > > > They are philosophically differences: > > Django preferes "explicit is better than implicit" so you have do define > > lots of boilerplate > > web2py says "do not repeat yourself" so you have lots of > > default behavior (magic?) but documented and backward compatible. > > > > Other communities have used various arguments to criticize some web2py's > > design decisions. All design decisions have pros and cons. Some of > > the criticism has legs and some has not. What is important is that those > > decisions were not motivated by ignorance but by carefully considering > > the alternatives. As a result of those design decision web2py is the > > only framework that allows hot install and uninstall of apps without > > restarting the web server (with any web server) and supports multiple > > projects under one web2py instance without library conflicts. > > > > I also want to stress that our community is very friendly. We have > > always shown great respect for other people's work and we have tried to > > learn from them. We have taken ideas from Django, TG, Flask, etc and we > > proudly acknowledged it. > > > > Massimo > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 1 August 2012 11:55:32 UTC-5, Anthony wrote: > > > > If it's a Django-friendly crowd, it might also be helpful to be > > prepared to handle the inevitable criticisms that will come. The big > > issues that tend to arise are (a) global objects/lack of > > imports/lack of explicitness/too much magic, (b) use of exec, and > > (c) pure Python in views. The links below address these and other > > criticisms. > > > > * > http://www.quora.com/Is-web2py-a-good-Python-web-framework/answer/Anthony-Bastardi > > > < > http://www.quora.com/Is-web2py-a-good-Python-web-framework/answer/Anthony-Bastardi?__snids__=28309519#ans341179> > > (scroll > > a bit for response to criticism by Jacob Kaplan-Moss, creator of > > Django). > > * > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/web2py/uIYf-dTjd88/P8yxUQwTZk4J > > < > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/web2py/uIYf-dTjd88/P8yxUQwTZk4J> > > * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3767009 > > <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3767009> > > * http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/271 > > <http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/271> > > * > http://greg.thehellings.com/2011/01/python-web2py-or-django/#comment-546 > > < > http://greg.thehellings.com/2011/01/python-web2py-or-django/#comment-546> > > * > http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-of-web2py-over-Django/answer/Daniel-Greenfeld/comment/478595 > > > < > http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-of-web2py-over-Django/answer/Daniel-Greenfeld/comment/478595> > > (addressing > > criticism of pure Python in views) > > > > And a little support from Zed Shaw regarding "magic": > > https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/80415443558477825 > > <https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/80415443558477825>, > > https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/80418794526351360 > > <https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/80418794526351360> > > > > Anthony > > > > On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:46:48 AM UTC-4, Alec Taylor wrote: > > > > Tonight I'm going to present my little social-network to a > > user-group. > > > > I'm going to show them my code, some slides, the website, the > > mobile apps and tell them when Django isn't as good as web2py. > > > > Are there any particular features of web2py you would recommend > > I highlight? - Also, are there any major drawbacks in Django > > that web2py has that is easily advertisable? > > > > (I have a slide or two on this, but I'm sure as longtime > > users/developers of web2py you'd have more to pitch-in) > > > > Thanks for all information, > > > > Alec Taylor > > > > -- > > > > > > > --
