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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Staging WebSocket protocol deployment (Ian Hickson)
   2. Re: Staging WebSocket protocol deployment (Ian Hickson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:39:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch>
To: Jeremy Orlow <jor...@chromium.org>
Cc: Fumitoshi Ukai (????) <u...@google.com>,    Alexey Proskuryakov
        <a...@webkit.org>, Noel Gordon <n...@google.com>, WebKit Development
        <webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org>
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Staging WebSocket protocol deployment
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Jeremy Orlow wrote:
>
> I don't buy that at all.  There's plenty of features with the webkit-
> prefix and I think it's pretty clear to developers what that means.

IMHO it makes no difference to authors if they have to use "webkit-ws:" or
"ws:" -- either way, they might come to depend on it, and either way if
other browsers want to be compatible with code written for us, they have
to use the same value.

The features where we have the webkit- prefix are CSS properties and
values. There, there's no problem with each browser vendor doing their own
extension, since you can list multiple properties. This doesn't apply to
URLs like here.

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:41:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch>
To: Adam Barth <aba...@webkit.org>
Cc: Fumitoshi Ukai (????) <u...@google.com>,    Alexey Proskuryakov
        <a...@webkit.org>, Noel Gordon <n...@google.com>, WebKit Development
        <webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org>
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Staging WebSocket protocol deployment
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Adam Barth wrote:
>
> Does the IETF WG have a timeline?

The IETF WG doesn't event exist yet.


> My understanding is that IETF WG take at least a year to do anything.

They take as long as we (the community) let them take. As far as I'm
concerned, the WebSocket feature is very mature. The IETF is late to this
party; WebSocket has been under development since 2005.

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Ian Hickson               U+1047E                )\._.,--....,'``.    fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/       U+263A                /,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'


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