On 2011-02-09, at 16:21, Kevin Ollivier wrote:

> 
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Mark Rowe wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2011-02-09, at 14:51, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Mark Rowe wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2011-02-09, at 14:05, Adam Barth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2011-02-09, at 13:06, Adam Barth wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Adam Barth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2010-12-22, at 10:34, Adam Barth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, would creating the Sources directory make it easier to
>>>>>>>>>>> move WTF out of JavaScriptCore?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that the location of the source on disk is a big 
>>>>>>>>>> factor in
>>>>>>>>>> WTF's presence in JavaScriptCore.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oh, I thought the main involved in creating a new top-level source
>>>>>>>>> directory was the main thing causing WTF to live inside
>>>>>>>>> JavaScriptCore.  I know we've talked about moving it out of
>>>>>>>>> JavaScriptCore for a while now.  Is that just a matter of someone
>>>>>>>>> (e.g., me) doing the work or are there other limiting factors?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If we switch to a top-level Sources directory, and on the 
>>>>>>>> Apple-internal side switch to submitting WebKit to the OS build using 
>>>>>>>> this single top-level sources directory, then it's easy to make new 
>>>>>>>> top-level directories without disrupting anything.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If we don't do the above, we'd have to set things up so we can submit 
>>>>>>>> WTF separately to the build to cope, and we'd need to make it build a 
>>>>>>>> static library and install private headers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I think it is easier to make this change if we do the Sources/ 
>>>>>>>> change first.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now that we've moved all the source code into Source, I'd like to try
>>>>>>> moving WTF out of JavaScriptCore.  Is there anything on the
>>>>>>> Apple-internal side that needs to happen first?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maciej's response above mentions that we need to make some internal 
>>>>>> process changes before it's easy to add new top-level projects without 
>>>>>> disrupting things.  Unless there's some urgent reason to move WTF I'd 
>>>>>> prefer that you hold off on doing this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it make sense to set a target date in the future for making
>>>>> these internal changes?  I'm certainly not in a rush, but I'd also
>>>>> like to make progress on this at some point.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think that would be useful.  The changes that block this are the 
>>>> same changes that prevent us from removing the concept of forwarding 
>>>> headers. We're as interested as you are in seeing them done.
>>> 
>>> I'm also very interested in seeing this done, as it affects the wx port 
>>> too, and I know from trying to make header changes to WTF (and watching all 
>>> the breakages) that almost all ports have hacks along the lines of 
>>> forwarding headers that deal with the issue of WTF being a separate project 
>>> in theory, but a private implementation detail of JSC in practice. Pulling 
>>> WTF out of JSC would, I think, go a long way to undoing a lot of those 
>>> hacks and reducing the time and maintenance cost of making changes to WTF.
>> 
>> As far as I'm aware only the Mac and Windows ports have anything along the 
>> lines of forwarding headers.  No other port that I'm aware of needs anything 
>> similar.
>> 
>>> Is the problem here that these internal changes are very difficult and/or 
>>> time consuming to implement? I wish I could help somehow because I'd much 
>>> rather spend time trying to fix this problem the right way and for good 
>>> than spending that time sorting out all the build breakages every time I 
>>> try to do something like add a new header to WTF that I want to be widely 
>>> available among ports and projects in WebKit. 
>> 
>> If you can point me at changes where you've had issues with forwarding 
>> headers I can provide suggestions as to how you can avoid problems with them 
>> in the future.  A quick look through SVN history doesn't reveal any changes 
>> related to forwarding headers from you.
> 
> Actually, I'm referring to what is still an open bug. 
> (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27551) The issue in question is a 
> change to try and move the definition of JSC / WTF export symbols into the 
> headers rather than using the current export definition files. Resolving this 
> issue is a pre-requisite for wx DRT support, and also blocks a bug related to 
> defining export macros for C++ DOM bindings as well.
> 
> Part of what fixing this bug entailed was adding a new header to WTF, I 
> called it wtf/ExportMacros.h, which defined WTF_EXPORT and WTF_IMPORT so we 
> could consolidate the export symbol attribute definition macros into one 
> place in the tree, instead of copying and pasting the same logic (just with 
> different XYZ_EXPORT and IMPORT names) into every config.h file. However, 
> when I tried adding the WTF header, almost every port failed with some error, 
> and it often had to do with header availability issues. (e.g. WebCore has 
> access to this WTF header, but WebKit, or DRT, or JSC.exe doesn't, and won't 
> unless you add it to some copied / forwarded header list). 

I clicked through various versions of the patches on that bug and I don't see 
changes in any of them that are related to forwarding headers.  Given that it's 
hard for me to make sense of what you're saying here.

- Mark


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