We should do this right, you won't hear any arguments from me. But I
am also sure that "W3C time investment" is a code word for years of
soul-sucking bureaucratic drudgery. As such, I don't think you meant
we should be using W3C process as the measuring stick for doing things
"right" in WebKit. There would not be WebKit if we did.

What I hope you meant instead is:
* study the problem in the larger context of a Web platform
* come up with a set of use cases that cover the problem
* design a solution based on the use cases
* build consensus with browser vendors while prototyping it in WebKit
* write a spec and a test suite that makes sense
* submit this to W3C as time permits.

That's what we've always done, right?

:DG<

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Simon Fraser <simon.fra...@apple.com> wrote:
> My main objection to adding this is that it's just one of many different 
> types of input device, and if we add these piecemeal for each device that 
> takes our fancy, we'll end up with a horrible mishmash of different input 
> events.
>
> I'd prefer a more general strategy of thinking about all the various types of 
> input events (e.g. joysticks, remote controls, assistive devices), and having 
> an API that caters for all of them. This of course would require significant 
> W3C time investment.
>
> Simon
>
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Scott Graham <scot...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Simon Fraser <simon.fra...@apple.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it's too early to implement this. We should wait until it's a W3C
>>>> draft at least.
>>>
>>> There's certainly work to be done in improving the design. I'm not proposing
>>> to slavishly implement the API exactly as specified there.
>>> However, I would like to prototype and help with the design of this API by
>>> iterating an implementation in the Chromium port.
>>> Is a feature flag inappropriate for this? i.e. Should that sort of prototype
>>> work be kept downstream indefinitely or until we have a draft spec?
>>
>> FWIW, keeping implementation "downstream" (that is in Chromium) is
>> basically an equivalent of forking, and we should work hard to avoid
>> that. But certainly not by just rejecting prototyping outright --
>> because the only workaround for that is forking.
>>
>> :DG<
>
>
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