Hi Leslie,

On 11/28/09 10:15, Leslie P. Polzer wrote:
> Venkat, you've posted a link showing that you've integrated the
> current HTML draft of the documentation into the Weblocks wiki hosted
> by you.
> 
> Do you intend to add new content and edit it there? If yes then we
> should probably agree on a good way to have a common base format for
> the manual.
> 
> At the moment we have two approaches:
> 
>   * the one I've used so far has the canonical content in source text
> files annotated with some formatting understood by the stx2any
> document processor.
> 
>   * HTML as source format in your Wiki
> 
> I explicitly invite all other readers to participate in this
> discussion.

I've just copied and pasted into the WYSIWIG editor in Tikiwiki. Which, imo,
sucks in many ways. There is the wiki structure and syntax that it supposedly
works with - you can create a /structure/ that acts like a table of contents and
then fill it back out.

The last layout system that I used that I liked was LaTeX. Its been a while :)
That said, on the CMS that runs the Rayservers site that we wrote, HTML edited
by Tinymce works well for the simple content in it.

http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

There is a new version of the WYSIWYG editor that Tikiwiki uses that is out. I
have not yet tried to see if it will work with the current install of Tikiwiki.

http://ckeditor.com/

It seems that the fckeditor is specialized to comprehend wiki syntax.

I would say that we should just use the Tikiwiki structure in their WYSIWYG
editor which means that content can be simply generated.

>From using it for a few articles the content in the editor when saved appears 
>to
become doublespaced. This is annoying.

The GBBopen hyperdoc is easy to use.

The summary of what I guess I'm trying to say is that we should just post HTML
to the wiki and then work out a better documentation method later, perhaps
writing a lisp based system. We need content first, the structure will evolve
from there. Sort of like extreme programming.... and I love the way you have the
auto-generated documentation.

Off-topic, but relevant is our economic security. The world as we know it will
change dramatically in the next two years. I've known this for many years:

http://www.rayservers.com/blog/the-dow-gold-ratio---the-most-reliable-prognosticator-of-our-time

Why I'm doing what I am doing and how I'm going about it touches every aspect of
computer programming - databases, lisp, DHTs, crypto. The biggest monopoly of
our time is not Windows - it is SAP. To replace centralized database centric
programming with a distributed system where the network is the database is my
goal. The system has to be capable of reasoning. Ambitious, yes.

So what does this have to do with documentation - lets put up whatever we think
on to the wiki, I can instantiate a forum so discussions get indexed. The Gentoo
forums, and Ubuntu forums were great ways to get problems sorted into threads.
Lets write article and post. Put up a blog. I know there are some freedom
thinking lisp programmers. Perhaps there are more of them than I know.

Business and making money - there is the entire crashing centralized economy to
take over. People who can program Lisp are capable of abstract thinking. There
should be plenty to go around.

https://freedom.rayservers.com/forum10 - a forum for Weblocks.

Cheers,

---Venkat.



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