Hi Ute

On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:55, ute Hoffmann wrote:

Hi Elizabeth,
thank you for your answer.

I found this in the WIKI but thought it was mainly for development but what I speak of is deployment.

So I thought it would be easier to put the 5.4 frameworks to a folder not using them now, have the 5.3 frameworks in the default place (I can copy them from the old deployment server which is to be replaced by the new one) and start WebObjects without further changes.

Yes - that's basically what we did - we did set up the 'swap' scripts because we were doing that on the development machine anyway. That list of WO frameworks is very useful - stick to that and don't just swap over *all* 'Java*' frameworks.

If I used the old Wonder 5.3 Frameworks everything should be well for wonder... to say the truth the singe not wonder App comes up ok on the current install without rebuilding it, it really is a change in wonder API
that brings me into this situation... :-(

So you did not change/import Javamonitor/WOTasked from 5.3, right?

I believe we carried on using the 5.4 versions that came with the Leopard server. I do recall we got into some issues with actually accessing the app through Apache - everything started up ok but attempts to use the app frequently got 'server busy' alerts. We had to change something completely non-obvious in the Apache config. Perhaps you won't encounter this issue!

Liz


Regards,

Ute

Am 04.11.2009 um 10:22 schrieb Elizabeth Lynch:

Hi Ute


On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:17, ute Hoffmann wrote:

Hi,
is it possible to

a) put the WebObjects 5.4 Frameworks into another folder
b) put the WebObjects 5.3 Frameworks from another server into the default folder

Yes, we have done this and it seems to work OK using the 5.3 frameworks. However, the installation on which we did this is not using Wonder. Have a look at this extract from a post to the WO- Dev list from Mike Schrag in October 2007. The thread is titled: 'The Official What-I-Did-To-Run-5.3-On-Leopard Post'.

* The following can be done a couple ways, but this is just how I happened to have things setup in betas, so I kept it (it worked for me): ** Make a /System/Library/Frameworks/WebObjects54 folder, and move the following frameworks from the 5.4 install into it:
        JavaDTWGeneration.framework
        JavaDirectToWeb.framework
        JavaEOAccess.framework
        JavaEOApplication.framework
        JavaEOControl.framework
        JavaEODistribution.framework
        JavaEOGeneration.framework
        JavaEOInterface.framework
        JavaEOInterfaceCocoa.framework
        JavaEOInterfaceSwing.framework
        JavaEOProject.framework
        JavaEORuleSystem.framework
        JavaEOTool.framework
        JavaFoundation.framework
        JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework
        JavaJNDIAdaptor.framework
        JavaWOExtensions.framework
        JavaWOJSPServlet.framework
        JavaWebObjects.framework
        JavaWebServicesClient.framework
        JavaWebServicesGeneration.framework
        JavaWebServicesSupport.framework
        JavaXML.framework

** Make a /System/Library/Frameworks/WebObjects53 folder, and move the following frameworks from your old 5.3 install into it (I tar'd these up from 5.3 before upgrading, but you can download 5.3 and extract these from the pkg, or POSSIBLY install them with the actually installer ... YMMV on that one)
        JavaDTWGeneration.framework
        JavaDirectToWeb.framework
        JavaEOAccess.framework
        JavaEOApplication.framework
        JavaEOCocoa.framework
        JavaEOControl.framework
        JavaEODistribution.framework
        JavaEOGeneration.framework
        JavaEOInterface.framework
        JavaEOInterfaceCocoa.framework
        JavaEOInterfaceSwing.framework
        JavaEOProject.framework
        JavaEORuleSystem.framework
        JavaEOTool.framework
        JavaFoundation.framework
        JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework
        JavaJNDIAdaptor.framework
        JavaWOExtensions.framework
        JavaWOJSPServlet.framework
        JavaWebObjects.framework
        JavaWebServicesClient.framework
        JavaWebServicesGeneration.framework
        JavaWebServicesSupport.framework
        JavaXML.framework

** I then use the following two scripts to be able to switch between using 5.3 and 5.4 system wide:
bash-3.2# cat wo53
for framework in `ls /System/Library/Frameworks/WebObjects53`; do rm /System/Library/Frameworks/$framework; ln -sf /System/Library/ Frameworks/WebObjects53/$framework /System/Library/Frameworks/ $framework; done

bash-3.2# cat wo54
for framework in `ls /System/Library/Frameworks/WebObjects54`; do rm /System/Library/Frameworks/$framework; ln -sf /System/Library/ Frameworks/WebObjects54/$framework /System/Library/Frameworks/ $framework; done

** At this point, you should have NO WO frameworks in /System/ Library/Frameworks -- they should be in subfolders.

** Now go ahead and run wo53, which should now give you WO 5.3 framework symlinks


and thus run WebObjects 5.3 on this server without any reinstall and being able to switch
back to WO 5.4 in the future without a reinstall.

Will wotasked and Monitor work correctly in this scenarion?
Or do I need to substitute them as well?

Will ths startup mechanism of that server regarding WebObjects work as expected?

Anyone who has tried this before?

Regards,

Ute
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