I think a good way to go would be to use a CMS/portal like Liferay, which is really nice, and use WO to build portlets (JSR-168) for it. This is what would let WO "sneak" into corporate projects. A whole WO CMS or other open-source solutions is still an uphill battle. A portlet that plugs into a standard Java solution would be a good way in. Also, you don't have to waste time replicating a portal and a cms. Liferay runs anywhere, has JackRabbit as the CMS, is incorporating Alfresco, has good security, looks good, etc, so it would be a great platform. Of course, if doing JSR-168 it should run in other portals as well! So we can do a WO-Form builder, or WO-Wiki, or quickly integrate the Project Wonder stuff as portlets.

Marcelo Ruiz Camauër

Marc Oesch wrote:
Yes, of course.  I didn't mean that we should build Wikis etc to use for
the WebObjects Foundation.

I'm relieved :)

I meantmindshare is created by providing
working solutions.
Apache became a powerhouse because they built/supported a fully
functional
Showing how WOnderful WO
is with
working applications will do the trick.

Completely agree with you.

The thing that bugs me most at the moment: There doesn't seem to be a
ready *open-source* WO CMS as foundation for such efforts - not only
speaking about community effort and sites.

Such an expandable CMS could be a starting point for working
applications. Extensions could be added later on, eg. adding blogs,
galleries, calendar...as others suggested.

I listed some options I'm aware of below.  I haven't seen the last one
(Pachyderm) talked about on this list, Pachyderm 2.0 is rather new...

I hope people with more experience can jump in and suggest which is
the best one to move forward...

- "Generic" Java CMS

Lenya
http://lenya.apache.org/

Magnolia
http://www.magnolia.info/en/magnolia.html

OpenCMS
http://www.opencms.org/opencms/en/

– WO CMS

GVC Sitemaker
http://www.gvcsitemaker.com/marketing/download

OCE
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oce

PWDA.com
http://www.pwda.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/PWDA.woa

Pachyderm 2.x
http://www.pachyderm.org/developers.html

...

Others ?

Marc
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