On 29/08/2006, at 7:18 AM, David Sanchez wrote:

On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Paul Lynch wrote:

But the tools in .NET are completely integrated, very fast and relatively mature.

What this tells us is that tools alone are not enough to make a good product, you need a degree of adequateness, of being "good enough", in all major areas.

Of course not. But the main reason I can think of why .NET is more popular than WO is because of those developer tools (And Microsoft business aggressiveness). Imagine a WO with great developers tools and documentation (From Apple or whomever).

I wish you were right my friend, but popularity (or at least widespread use) in this marketplace has little to do with technical excellence. I can't comment on .NET tools (although .NET is a little more open than Java, because you don't have to use C# or VB, because it is open to other technologies like Eiffel - didn't you wonder where MS got the "Trusted Computing Platform" phrase from?)

Today's dominance dates back to the 1890s when a guy named Patterson found he could sell more of his inferior NCR cash registers by blackening the competitors to clients. TJ Watson of IBM was his early accomplice, and Patterson eventually went to gaol (or jail.... alright the penitentiary) for his activities. I can't remember if Watson did as well. This interesting history is in Richard DeLamater's Big Blue: IBM's Use and Abuse of Power.

Anyway, today, there is no shortage of MS patsies going around saying Apple sucks, although I think most of the world is seeing through their message.

Apple, I think is well aware that even if they made WO the most perfect, beautifully-integrated-with-tools platform that it would still be a hard sell against MS dominance in the world. Like managers did not used to get fired for installing IBM, they now don't get fired for using .NET, and even if they did, there's always the .NET site next door.

Ian
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