What Mike said. EOGenerator has been a vital part of our development
process for many years now. I never understood why more people did
not use dbEdit. I shall miss that.
Chuck
On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:43 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
I just want to thank you guys for EOGenerator. That tool made a
huge percentage of the WebObjects development community's lives
substantially easier. As I mentioned in my private email, it's a
testament to how great your apps were that I believe the #1 reason
WebObjects people can't move to Leopard is because eogenerator is
broken.
ms
On Oct 30, 2007, at 1:44 AM, Doug McClure wrote:
Hi all. I apologize for sending this to so many groups, but I
wanted as many to get this information as possible.
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On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
Is a Leopard version coming?
Thanks, Kieran
A very good question and one we've been thinking about a lot
recently, so here is the Officical Rubicode Statement about
EOGenerator and Leopard.
EOGenerator (and EOReporter and DBEdit for that matter) are based
on the Objective-C version of EOF. By using Objective-C, we were
able to extend many EOF classes so that we could build our tools
easily, and in EOGenerator's case, to add additional methods that
were easily accessible in your templates..
As of WebObjects 5, Apple effectively EOL'ed the Obj-C EOF for
public consumption, but because EOModeler and WebObjectsBuilder
depended on those frameworks, they had to continue delivering them
as private frameworks, which we gladly took advantage of.
However, we are well aware that as of 5.4, Apple has officially
deprecated those applications as well as the private frameworks
that we depended on.
It IS still possible to run these tools if you obtain the private
frameworks and add them to your system from the previous developer
release. We have not tested this ourselves, but we have heard
that it worked fine.
Currently we have no plans to make a version of DBEdit to work
under 5.4. There is too much code, and too many Objective-C
tricks required to think about a Java version at this time.
As for EOGenerator, that is a bit more difficult question. We
realize that EOGenerator is an extremely popular tool among the
WebObjects community, and we would very much like to continue to
support the tool, although neither Carl nor myself are working
with WebObjects professionally at the moment. We are left with
two choices: recreate the necessary Objective-C classes we need
to support the model or rewrite the application in Java. The
first is not ideal as that places more work on our shoulders to
stay in sync with the any changes to EOModel, and the latter would
mean would sacrificing template compatibility to go with an
existing Java product (most likely Velocity). Either solution
would certainly take a bit of time.
If we do redo EOGenerator, we will also redo EOReporter as the
majority of the code base is the same.
Now Mike Schrag apparently has a EOGenerator replacement that he
is looking to add to WOLips. That is a completely separate
project that we have no information about at this time, but we
have every reason to believe that this will be a very useful tool
that may remove any need for us to redevelop ours. And if that
happens we'll be content to hand over the EOGenerator title to
someone else, although we will miss it.
We have greatly enjoyed serving the community with these tools for
the past 7 years and are quite impressed with how many of you have
made EOGenerator part of your projects. We are looking forward to
what Mike has to offer and will be exploring what we can add to
the community also.
Any questions feel free to direct to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you all,
Carl Lindberg
Doug McClure
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