On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

On 31/10/2007, at 5:04 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

suggestion: embed="true" for all frameworks solved much of this multi-version garbage in deployment in the past ... probably easiest route since WOLips ant tasks have easy "embed" flags

The thing I /do not/ like about embedding of WO supplied frameworks is how this makes each app needlessly bulky for uploading.

scp is particularly slow if you transfer the built embedded bundle as is with each file transfered separately ..... however if you tar.gz the bundle, it makes a dramatic difference to upload ..... I find that a typical woa with fully embedded Apple frameworks, Wonder and a few custom ones tar.gz's to 15MB to 30MB more or less. .... it is faster than when I scp'd non-tar.gz'd, non-embedded woa's before from what I can see.

For the extra 60 seconds upload, I find it refreshing to never have deployment launch problems and peace of mind that I never stomp over frameworks with new versions that are incompatible with existing deployed apps.

For sure, a dedicated server with one or two apps might make sense to manage the server frameworks as separate deployments, but IMHO for servers with 6 or 12 or more different apps where some might not get updates for a long long time, embedding is the best way to deployment sanity.


So for me, if there's some work put into a better solution, then +1 from me. (This may just mean adding an option to WOLips to set a custom location to find the system frameworks).


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