Kieran

When started using MySQL, I opted for InnoDB after some good reading on its docs. Good advice on the other side of MyISAM and looks like it is lacking of referential integrity checking.

I am still using free InnoDB, and practically done my configurations on own, that's including the replica (that is fun!). Until such a time that i need more helps and pay to support the community. As you said, it is for version 32 and above, therefore i did not see this setting in the v26 docs reading. Just verified config file again, and confirmed that it is not there.

Thanks for the alert again.

Cheong Hee

---- Original Message ----- From: "Kieran Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cheong Hee (Datasonic)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "WebObjects-Dev List" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: MySQL 5.0 - note


Cheong,

I use this week's latest (5.0.51a) .... the original message to the list was inspired by reading the upgrade notes which say the last *statement* is rolled back in the event of a timeout by default unless you use the option given.

InnoDB is free. My reference to paying was that if you were a paying customer, then you would not have to worry about reading details in the upgrade notes since the MySQL Advisors would configure your my.cnf for you!

Cheong, MyISAM is not transactional ...... if using it, you will surely end up with messed up database and many orphan foreign keys!

Kieran


On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Cheong Hee (Datasonic) wrote:

Hi Andrew

I could be wrong. Thought Kieren meant the new version:32 rolls back the entire transaction(s) if a timeout occurs for the last transaction. ...and therefore saveChanges will ensure all or none of the transactions will be committed into database. So no partial save. I am using version 26, and did not notice the issue. Could do a test later of the night.


"Incompatible change: As of MySQL 5.0.13, InnoDB rolls back only the
last statement on a transaction timeout. In MySQL 5.0.32, a new
option, --innodb_rollback_on_timeout, causes InnoDB to abort and roll
back the entire transaction if a transaction timeout occurs (the same
behavior as in MySQL 4.1)."

Terribly sorry if I got it the other way around.   Thanks.

Cheers

Cheong Hee


----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lindesay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cheong Hee (Datasonic)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: MySQL 5.0 - note


Hello Cheong;

The "typical" transaction behaviour would be for either all of a transaction to be stored corrected in the database server or none of the transaction would be stored. Kieren is describing a situation where some of a transaction is stored and some is not stored so you can't be sure what has been stored and what has not. Doesn't sound like a happy situation.

cheers.

May be by default, you pay less, if you'd need to. MyISAM is cheaper.. Thanks Kieran for useful info, and thought by default MySQL should do so. Is FrontBase do the same roll back if timeout?

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