On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net>wrote:
> Hi Susanne,
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 2:49 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:
>
> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> first thank you very much for your patience with such a latecomer like me!
>> Chuck Hill schrieb:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>
>>>> today I tempted fate and installed WO 5.4 on an Windows system (based on
>>>> an MacBook) for development parallel to an existing 5.2 installation.
>>>>
>>>> After trying the tutorial for parallel handling from the wiki without
>>>> any success I simply copied the new Framework directories into the old
>>>> location. Not very elegant but seems to work: I could compile in Eclipse
>>>> (3.5, WOLips 3.4.5872).
>>>>
>>>> But I did not succeed in making an ant build. I always get the message
>>>> "There is not root named "C:/Apple" in [[Root: name= Project...." when
>>>> coming to the compile target. Alas I haven't the faintest idea what is
>>>> meant
>>>> by that. Could somebody help me, please?? Is the problem related to the new
>>>> framework/classpath handling I hadn't understand either?
>>>>
>>> Yes, you need to update the build files. The easiest is to create a new
>>> project and move the build.xml file over. This will NOT be compatible with
>>> older versions of WOLips (pre-New Hotness). Look in the woapplication task
>>> for a section like:
>>> <frameworks root="C:/Apple" ...
>>> It should be more like
>>> <frameworks root="System"
>>> embed="${your.property.here}"
>>> eclipse="true" />
>>>
>>
>> OK, for starting from scratch and learning I make a fresh new TestApp and
>> tried to build that. At first try the ant build needs a new
>> "wolips.properties" which I created.
>>
>
> That should get created automatically. There might be a problem with this
> on Windows.
>
Yes it has a problem automatically creating in windows. (I felt the pain
before) not sure if its still the case with the latest versions. Here's my
wolips.properties file for reference. It should be located in C:\Documents
and Settings\{user}\Library\Application Support\WOLips folder.
wo.system.root=F\:/Apple
wo.system.frameworks=F\:/Apple/Library/Frameworks
wo.bootstrapjar=F\:/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/WOBootstrap.jar
wo.extensions=F\:/Apple/Local/Library/WebObjects/Extensions
wo.user.root=F\:/Amiel
wo.local.frameworks=F\:/Apple/Local/Library/Frameworks
wo.apps.root=F\:/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications
wo.local.root=F\:/Apple/Local
And yes the "\" after the drive letter is needed in windos. Maybe Chuck can
enlighten me why that is. ;)
>
>
>
> This took me one step further but now the build fails with the message
>> "Could not find wobuild.properties. Run the buildfile: woproperties.xml
>> first".
>>
>> But I have the normal old-fashioned wobuild.properties in the standard
>> location. And I could not find any "woproperties.xml" file. Do I have to
>> place the wobuild.properties in a special location or to configure it
>> somewhere in Eclipse?
>>
>
> That part confuses me. wobuild.properties is not used anymore. Where is
> that message coming from?
>
>
> At the moment I found it very confusing: I found 3 locations where the
>> installation of framework path are defined:
>> - classpath-variables (Eclipse during startup from NEXT_ROOT?)
>> - wobuild.properties
>> - wolips.properties
>> and even there are multiple properties to the same path in one file.
>>
>
> The new WOLips should only be using wolips.properties.
>
>
> By the way, the licence terms of the 5.4 version leave some points
>> unclear, especially section 4 about termination. I tried to get information
>> from Apple, but at least at the german telephone sites there was no much
>> help. Does anybody knows an email contact at apple for official information
>> ("webobje...@apple.com" did come back)?
>>
>>> I don't have the license handy. Do you have a link or can you paste in
>>> that section?
>>>
>> The legals are here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/xcode.pdf
>> The section I found unclear is:
>>
>> "4. Termination. ... In addition, Apple reserves the right to terminate
>> this Licence if a new version of Apple's operating system software or the
>> Developer Software is released wich is incompatible with this version of the
>> Developer Software. Upon the termination of this Licence, you shall cease
>> all use of the Developer Software and destroy all copies, full or partial,
>> of the Developer Software."
>>
>> What is meant by "incompatible"? A update from 5.4.3 to 5.4.4 or to 6.0?
>> Does this imply deployed applications too? There is no mentioning how do you
>> get notice of a termination at all. And as I would interpret this section
>> this would even apply if you do not upate your development system.
>>
>> This is not a very trustable ground for developing to-be-sold software
>> upon. I rather would like to pay for software I am free to use as long as I
>> like (and on any platform I like)!
>>
>
>
> That one is easy: that is NOT the WebObjects license. That is the license
> for the Xcode Developer Tools. The WebObjects license is completely
> different and very liberal. You will see it when you run the WebObjects
> installer.
>
> Chuck
>
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