How hard would it be to make our own Gianduia? .... or to have similar functionality using ERXRest framework and Cappucino, GWT, or sth like that? Is Gianduia so revolutionary that we could never make something comparable in Wonder?

On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

The obvious exception being Gwandalu...Guwundo... Hazelnut. But that is yet to be released, so it doesn't count in their favor.

Cheers, Anjo



Am 24.11.2009 um 21:21 schrieb Mike Schrag:

I was just in the midst of typing the same thing. Almost all of our new deployments will be on Linux in a VM infrastructure. And I don't need Apple to provide me anything. I can't really think of a WO enhancement that can't be done by a 3rd party. IMO, for the past 5 years, the community has brought far more interesting enhancements than Apple has. What are you expecting Apple to provide to you that Wonder doesn't provide to you RIGHT NOW, in an open development process.

ms

On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says or does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's not like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.

You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are loyal, or else HE might smite us like the flies we are!"

Cheers, Anjo



Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:

If we want Apple to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to the community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and Linux. We should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do anything for us in the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only developing and deploying on Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that 5.4.3 will be the last version we will ever see...

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-24, at 10:19 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

1) The customer sometimes is willing to compromise and give you a Linux box ... deployment on Linux is as easy as Mac more-or- less. So, if they won't let you use Mac, ask if you can use Linux.... and setup CentOS or RHEL on it.

2) Project Wonder has source for Adaptors. I see IIS adaptor source in there. No idea how good it is:

        /Wonder/Utilities/Adaptors/IIS/

HTH, Kieran

On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Ralph Scheuer wrote:

Hello everybody,

due to the fact that some of our customers use Windows servers, I would be interested how others deploy their WO apps on Windows these days...

The wiki only refers to Apache when it comes to WO 5.4 on Windows and does not mention IIS...

However, some customers need specific IIS features like Single- Sign-On via ActiveDirectory or do not want another web server for political reasons.

How do you deal with that?

Is it still possible to use the old 5.2 adaptors (CGI or ISAPI) with modern IIS versions and WO 5.4? How about 64-bit-ness?

Would it be possible to set up WO 5.2 and just replace all the frameworks with the 5.4 equivalents so that at least the CGI adaptor (WebObjects.exe) from the old version works?

Has Apple ever released the source of the Windows adaptors so that they could be recompiled for 64-bit IIS?

Thanks for your input.

Ralph
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