Hi Tim,

I have accessed PostgreSQL using Filemaker before using ODBC using
"Actual" drivers.

Caveat: I only used this with 8.0 and 8.5 using ODBC to import all
data for subsequent processing rather than accessing data "live". I
gather Filemaker 9.0 can use an external data source in joins, but
have no idea whether it would support PostgreSQL using these ODBC
drivers... worth a look though.

Best wishes,

Mark



2009/12/3 Tim Worman <[email protected]>:
> I'm also staring down a future with MySQL - for a much different reason. Our 
> school has a lot of institutional knowledge of FileMaker Pro. I'm moving 
> towards WO as the editing mechanism and leveraging that institutional 
> knowledge for users' report writing needs. FMP only supports 3 databases for 
> transparently including external ODBC data sources - and MySQL is the only 
> option for us.
>
> Up to now I've been using OpenBase and been extremely pleased with it but 
> FileMaker's got me by the short and curlies. I have been following Kieran's 
> support of MySQL and I'm glad to see others see similar benefits.
>
> Tim Worman
> UCLA GSE&IS
>
> On Dec 3, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>
>> Also, full disclosure -- i DO use Postgresql and I think it's a great 
>> database, but I always feel a little queasy when I do a deployment with PG 
>> without clustering support. There's always the feeling of "i sure hope this 
>> doesn't screw me." FrontBase has clustering, but has an obnoxious bug with 
>> clustered sequences which basically requires that you use guid pks, which 
>> none of our stuff does, so it's pretty likely MySQL is in my future.
>>
>> ms
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>
>>> Caveat here -- I don't use MySQL (yet) for anything real.  InnoDB is acid, 
>>> though.  I agree that you should never run a myisam mysql for most normal 
>>> systems and that it's strange that this is the default, but the fact is 
>>> that you CAN set it to innodb, and it's a perfectly capable (if not VERY 
>>> capable) database.
>>>
>>> Soooooo -- I'm calling this out as FUD. Search google for "postgresql 
>>> corruption" and you'll get plenty of matches, too:
>>> Results 1 - 10 of about 164,000 for postgresql corruption.
>>> Results 1 - 10 of about 12,700 for mysql innodb corruption.
>>>
>>> There are quite a few huge systems that are running on MySQL. And the 
>>> simple fact that you can cluster it actually makes it far more resilient 
>>> than postgresql. Go try to setup a fault tolerant deployment of PG. Have 
>>> fun and let me know when you're done.
>>>
>>> ms
>>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing "specifically" wrong about using MySQL as a database for 
>>>> WO. What's wrong is using MySQL at all! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, it sucks. The first concern of MySQL authors is speed, and 
>>>> only then correctioness. This may be seen my the existence of InnoDB 
>>>> itself. First, speeeeeed. A few years later, yeah, this actually might be 
>>>> usable in something else than a blog if we actually add ACID properties to 
>>>> it!
>>>>
>>>> In my Univ, the IT team who deals with the central systems moved 
>>>> everything they could from mysql to PostgreSQL. Among other reasons, once 
>>>> in a while a MySQL table corrupted itself. PostgreSQL is much more robust.
>>>>
>>>> As always in software engineering, everything is a compromise. There may 
>>>> be a few situations where MySQL is dramatically faster than PostgreSQL, 
>>>> and the inverse is also true, it depends on the usage and the DB 
>>>> architecture. This to say that you should use what better suits your 
>>>> needs. But what I would not expect is MySQL to... you know... work! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>>
>>>> Miguel Arroz
>>>>
>>>> On 2009/12/03, at 22:58, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Miguel, anyone, please enlighten me as to what specifically is wrong with 
>>>>> using MySQL InnoDB as a database for WO because I have not seen any 
>>>>> problem, but then I have not used PostgreSQL or FrontBase either - so 
>>>>> maybe I don't see a problem that I should be concerned about.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kieran
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2009/12/03, at 22:32, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I create new OSCs for most background tasks. The one thing is that I 
>>>>>>>>> dispose() on it at the end of the task .... and the dispose() is only 
>>>>>>>>> useful if you use ERXJDBCAdaptor is used since the regular WO 5.3 
>>>>>>>>> jdbc adaptor opens two connections for every OSC and leaves the 
>>>>>>>>> stupid things open forever. ERXJDBCAdaptor only opens one db 
>>>>>>>>> connection and releases it when u call dispose() IIRC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dude! 
>>>>>>>> <http://terminalapp.net/webobjects-postgresql-and-db-growing-and-growing/>
>>>>>>>>  ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dude!  www.mysql.com - innodb (or cluster NDB) .... doesn't "grow and 
>>>>>>> grow"   (and it is not a "toy", no matter what Chuck says ;-)  )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's a disaster! ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "growing" is a side effect of leaving the transaction opening that 
>>>>>> happens on PostgreSQL due to its architecture, but the point is the 
>>>>>> same, do what I say there to avoid the dumb connection. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Miguel Arroz
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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