You are probably OK with one instance with that load.  Multiple instances 
spread out the impact from slow operations and allow you to start a new 
instance of a new version without interrupting current user sessions.

Chuck


On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:

> Currently, I am only running one instance. But of course this brings in the 
> question of instances. 
> 
> From what I am reading, I see that the connection to the database is single 
> threaded. So only one reader/writer at a time. I have very few users 
> currently. I think the max number of users will be in the 40-50 range.
> 
> I am running the database (postgresql) and the webserver on a MacMini (new). 
> What are the limits before I need to add another instance. I would love to 
> hold this to the one instance, but recognize that I will have to learn the 
> techniques for handling multiple instances.
> 
> 
> Ted
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/19/10, Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net>
>> Subject: Re: EOEditingContext help
>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <tedp...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "David Avendasora" <webobje...@avendasora.com>, 
>> webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 11:08 PM
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2010, at 5:20 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:
>> 
>>> Users are adding time/work objects. (I worked on job
>> number 10 for .25 hour and here is what I did.)
>>> 
>>> the finance department runs a report that gets all
>> these work objects and when they are happy they mark them as
>> 'Accepted'. This is what I am capturing.
>>> 
>>> I need to mark 1000 objects as accepted. I could get
>> an array of all the objects, mark them as accepted and save
>> the EC.
>>> 
>>> or just tell the database update all time/work record
>> of job number 10 to accepted. But of course this is behind
>> the back of my App.
>>> 
>>> I don't think there will be more than 1 to 2 thousand
>> objects (50 users with 20 hits = 1000 objects).
>> 
>> I would not worry until I got to 100,000.  If you see
>> issues in performance testing (or actual usage), THEN
>> worry.
>> 
>> 
>>> At issue is, once the object is marked as accepted,
>> the users can not edit the object. So if a user selects an
>> object to edit, the save junction is disabled if the time
>> object is marked as accepted.
>>> 
>>> I think I will try what you recommended and see if
>> there is a reason to care about the procedure.
>> 
>> If you will be running multiple instances, then you need to
>> do something to handle data freshness issues.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 9/19/10, David Avendasora <webobje...@avendasora.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: David Avendasora <webobje...@avendasora.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: EOEditingContext help
>>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <tedp...@yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
>>>> Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 7:01 AM
>>>> Hi Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> Can you define "whole bunch" are we talking
>> thousands,
>>>> millions? I follow the mantra of "First make it
>> work, then
>>>> worry about optimizing it if it is to slow."
>>>> 
>>>> If you are updating the same attribute on all the
>> objects,
>>>> you can simply use key-value coding.
>>>> 
>>>> myArray.takeValueForKey(newValue,
>> Entity.ATTRIBUTE_KEY);
>>>> 
>>>> Also, how are you saving? Are you saving each
>> object, or
>>>> saving the EditingContext?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Theodore Petrosky
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have to update a whole bunch of objects.
>> Method 1
>>>> says make a list of the objects, make the changes
>> and
>>>> saveChanges(). Seems really inefficient. If there
>> were only
>>>> 50 objects I would probably do that. So I created
>> a
>>>> procedure on backend. Basically, an update of all
>> records
>>>> that match a job number.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course this is making a change behind the
>> back of
>>>> my WO App. and someone may be looking at this
>> data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So what are my choices? go back to method 1.
>> Looping
>>>> through 500 records, then saving changes? Or is
>> there a way
>>>> to selectively invalidate these objects to force
>> any other
>>>> users to get fresh data?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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