It's a good question, and one I can probably check for when the exception 
happens.  Will that be in the optimistic lock exception?  Or do I have to hunt 
for it?

On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

> just to make sure -- does the database have the new value and the snapshot 
> has the old, or vice versa?
> 
> ms
> 
> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
> 
>> It's Oracle RAC, so yes, a cluster.
>> 
>> Yes, I'm REALLY sure it's single threaded.
>> 
>> Yes, no way for someone else to change those rows, since we audit the tables 
>> with a trigger, and they weren't modified by anything else. 
>> 
>> The data type of the trans_id column is Number (12,0)
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> What kind of DB are you using? Is it a single server, or a cluster?
>>> 
>>> Are you REALLY sure it's single threaded (although that should not make a 
>>> difference, because OL doesn't work anyway ;) )?
>>> 
>>> Are you REALLY sure no other app, person, alien, cosmic ray, etc, is 
>>> changing the conflicting rows at the same time?
>>> 
>>> (Not my suggestion, but really good point ;) ) What is the data type of the 
>>> column you use for locking?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Miguel Arroz
>>> 
>>> On 2010/09/24, at 16:56, Ken Anderson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have an odd problem I'm wondering if anyone else has seen before.
>>>> 
>>>> I have apps that do high throughput processing of data - many times a 
>>>> second.  It is single threaded, and uses a single EOF stack.  I'm sure 
>>>> it's single threaded because the requests are coming in via an inbound 
>>>> queue, not any kind of front end.
>>>> 
>>>> Every once in a while under significantly high load, I get a few 
>>>> optimistic lock exceptions in a row, on rows that are only being touched 
>>>> by this app.  We audit every update, and I can look into the audit tables 
>>>> and verify that nothing else has modified the record except this app.
>>>> 
>>>> It's almost like the snapshot has not been recorded properly before the 
>>>> next request is processed, so EOF thinks something else updated the value.
>>>> 
>>>> Our locking is implemented on a single column, trans_id, which is updated 
>>>> with every save.  The audit table also saves the trans_id that's 
>>>> responsible for moving the record into audit, and all the values match in 
>>>> succession.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone had anything like this happen?  Running 5.4.3 on Linux.  and 
>>>> no... no Wonder.
>>>> 
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