Will the install result in a workspace set up exactly like Mike's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AGiq9j_Ak

Seriously though, there could be some benefit in that.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS


On Oct 10, 2010, at 9:48 AM, David LeBer wrote:

> 
> On 2010-10-10, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
> 
>> Ah - cool.
>> 
>> There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would 
>> consider changing (IMHO).
>> 
>> Pros
>> - "Always" Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than 
>> have a script on a server continuously generate packages
>> - Simplicity (big for me)
>> 
>> Cons
>> - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and 
>> then run, or are not constantly connected)
>> - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a 
>> little crazy)
>> - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's 
>> like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar
>> 
>> Questions
>> - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download?
>> - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download?
>> - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail?
>> - Is there a "Cancel" button?
> 
> Yes
> 
>> - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask?
>> 
>> In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new 
>> feature (Package References) - so the package would download components 
>> remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and 
>> frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the 
>> future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is 
>> connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client 
>> and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back).
>> 
>> I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks here....should we shelve 
>> the turnkey in favor of something like this? 
>> Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation 
>> solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one 
>> (maybe two) which will be the future "newbie" installer....need to get rid 
>> of the confusion there.
> 
> This is just a simple Cocoa wrapper around Mike's shell script. As such it 
> simply derives the appropriate download path and then calls through to an 
> embedded version of the script with NSTask.
> 
> It is not designed to be a replacement for anything, and to be completely 
> honest, I have no interest in creating or supporting the next great 
> installer. Mike's script is just really cool, and I wanted to make it easier 
> to use. I have a wickedly fast internet connection right now, so I can have a 
> complete eclipse install up and running in about 3 minutes. Which is awesome 
> BTW.
> 
> I might consider enhancing Mike's script so it takes a second optional 
> eclipse archive location, so you can grab from a local archive for the 
> eclipse app itself, but that is probably the extent of my planned 
> enhancements.
> 
> That said, I'll probably also push this up to github for those who want to 
> extend it themselves.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> jeremy
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote:
>> 
>>> Based on Mike's wolips install script: 
>>> 
>>> <http://gist.github.com/610081>
>>> 
>>> I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our 
>>> ranks.
>>> 
>>> Demo here:
>>> 
>>> <https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov>
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you are interested in testing it.
> 
> ;david
> 
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