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On Dec 22, 2010, at 2:14 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

> 
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
> 
>> whoa! unexpected can-o-worms!
>> 
>> I guess I had been using FrontBase...But now I'm on mysql via amazon RDS 
>> which really seems like a nice service.
>> 
>> I really could care less about how keys are constrained really, I have a new 
>> WO-centric data model and WO is the main handler of the data and this is a 
>> new setup, so the path of greatest WO'ness is the clear choice.
>> 
>>> 1. The FK and the ID it's pointing to are the same field types.
>> 
>> well, they really do all seem to be properly inheriting from ID prototype 
>> and aside from being marked as non-required and I guess I turned off locking 
>> for that property...the ER tables are getting created from scratch at the 
>> same time etc.
>> 
>>> 2. (Most likely) the table must be InnoDB, not MyISAM. MyISAM does not 
>>> support FK constraints.
>> 
>> the tables do seem to be inoDB (whatever that is) and utf-8 in the hope of 
>> capturing various languages properly.
>> 
>> I wonder this - I have at least one table that I was using that is a 
>> correlation table (invitation) and the eogen makes key constraints for  that 
>> table -- the trouble comes for me when I connect to the ERAttachemnt model.
>> 
>> NOW -- I did have some trouble with that relationship while getting started, 
>> I know I had to delete a framework I had somehow imported and changed in 
>> order to get it in sync with the deployment model which I bundle up with the 
>> app. (I'm also new to eclipse)
>> 
>> I really thought I had a model confusion going on...something stemming from 
>> that duplicate model or something.
>> 
>> Also note -- I have been able to upload photos while I've been dropping and 
>> recreating tables and model files and testing things.
>> 
>> If I recall, I opted out of the egoen'd key constraint and some point and 
>> was able to store attachments without the error message at runtime - but it 
>> has been inconsistent and of course, if I could recall the recipe and it 
>> worked, I'd just stick with it.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
> EOF doesn't do DB operations in a predictable/consistent/deterministic way. 
> If it worked before in MySQL with FK constraints in the DB, then it was just 
> luck. EOF could easily just have inserted things in the right order by 
> complete chance. I used MSSQL Server on a previous project and it took a 
> while for me to figure out why sometimes the same transaction would fail and 
> other times it would run just fine. If you have non-deferrable FK constraints 
> in the DB you must either force EOF to do things in the right order, or 
> remove the constraints.
> 
> There is code that Chuck wrote (that others have eluded to) that will put 99% 
> of normal DB operations in the correct order. Use it. Don't look back.
> 
>> Should I opt away from constraints anyway? Model setting I should try?
> 
> NO! Use constraints. Use them. USE THEM! You say that WO is the main handler 
> of the data, but sooner or later something else is going to touch the data 
> (could be another app, could be you running SQL commands from the console) 
> and the database will allow you to happily have FKs that point to nothing, 
> which EOF will also choke on (although there's a way to force it to swallow 
> it using Wonder).
> 
> Use the Entity Ordering code of Chuck's. I believe you just add a line of 
> code to the Application constructor to use an Entity Ordering Delegate (not 
> sure, it's been a while, google is your friend). And only remove the FK 
> constraints on self-referential relationships.
> 
> Dave
> 
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