> On 15/01/2011, at 2:12 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> 
>> I'm all for Q's approach, too. For me, Ivy is the part of Maven that isn't 
>> so bad. You get the dependency management without all the other stuff on top.
> 
> And, of course, you can interpret 'all the other stuff on top' in one of two 
> ways:
> a) negatively, which seems to be the way this particular community keeps the 
> myth going that it'll be too much pain. (Perhaps certain people have a 
> hang-over from maven 1?).
> b) positively, as meaning all the additional benefits maven provides and with 
> less pain overall.

and of course you can present the two possible interpretations as

a) a myth
b) you're right

or

a) my personal experience
b) you're wrong

it's all a matter of perspective ;)

more seriously, though -- you just have to try it out for yourself and see if 
you like it. i don't. it's not an objective judgement of maven, it's a 
subjective judgement of maven.

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